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Philosopher | Platonist https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40466.msg501235#msg501235
« on: May 20, 2012, 04:25:36 am »
NAME:
Philosopher
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
7 :aether
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0 | 1
TEXT:
:time :time :time :time :time : Upgrade target creature or permanent.
NAME:
Platonist
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
10 :aether
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0 | 1
TEXT:
:time :time :time :time :time : Upgrade target creature, permanent, or card in your hand.

ART:
Raffaello Sanzio da Urbino (aka Raphael)
IDEA:
My two thumbs.
NOTES:
Aether + Time = Acceleration of the growth of a thing's essence, in this case, its Platonic form.

Expensive due to the potential awesomeness of the activated ability. Since many upgraded cards are better when played, the upgraded version is even better, and thus even more expensive.

Extreme fragility is a necessary component of balance.
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Re: Philosopher | Platonist https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40466.msg501236#msg501236
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2012, 04:28:15 am »
Being that most permanents are simply -1 cost for the upgrade, I don't see the ability as strong as you do.
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Re: Philosopher | Platonist https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40466.msg501239#msg501239
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2012, 04:36:43 am »
A large portion are simply cheaper, sure. But there are a number of cards that are significantly better in their upgraded form.

You wouldn't use this to upgrade cards that are cheaper to play. You'd use it to upgrade things that are significantly better. Like the various weapons, for example.
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Re: Philosopher | Platonist https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40466.msg501240#msg501240
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2012, 04:39:12 am »
0|1, cost 7 :aether, summoning sickness, cost 5 :time to use the skill.
Any reason i want to use this fragile card instead of collecting money and upping the cards directly?
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Re: Philosopher | Platonist https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40466.msg501241#msg501241
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2012, 04:40:36 am »
The card that gains the most stat with the upgrade is Archangel, +6|+1. Seriously, you're going to spend 7 :aether + 5 :time per card to do those boosts?

What if...

1 :aether : 1|1. 1 :time : Upgrade target card in your hand.
1 :aether : 1|3. 1 :time : Upgrade target card in your hand.
« Last Edit: May 20, 2012, 04:42:33 am by eaglgenes101 »
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Re: Philosopher | Platonist https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40466.msg501242#msg501242
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2012, 04:49:05 am »
Way too expensive to be worth it.
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Re: Philosopher | Platonist https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40466.msg501247#msg501247
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2012, 04:57:00 am »
Dreadfully UP.  Also, it seems as if this idea has been done before.  Wait a second...

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,19903.0.html
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Re: Philosopher | Platonist https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40466.msg501272#msg501272
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2012, 07:05:48 am »
Quote from: Drake_XIV on May 20, 2012, 04:57:00 am
Dreadfully UP.  Also, it seems as if this idea has been done before.  Wait a second...

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,19903.0.html
As a reusable ability its a bit more useful though. Still, its a bit expensive both in casting cost and ability cost considering it is an extremely frail creature. It could be useful in one or two occasions (pandamonium, and dissipation shield for instance), but the high cost will outweigh the benefit of many of the upgraded cards which typically are useful primarily due to their improved cost effectiveness.
Its a fun concept, and I think it fits the theme nicely ( :light ability would probably work too ) but it is UP at the moment I think.
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