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Harpy | Elite Harpy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20436.msg259371#msg259371
« on: January 29, 2011, 07:04:23 am »
NAME:
Harpy
ELEMENT:
Air
COST:
:air
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
4 | 1
TEXT:
:gravity :gravity: Defensive mode
Swap this creature's attack and defense. This creature gains gravity pull.
NAME:
Elite Harpy
ELEMENT:
Air
COST:
:air
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
6 | 1
TEXT:
:gravity :gravity: Defensive mode
Swap this creature's attack and defense. This creature gains gravity pull.
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http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/dv614001/Digital-Vision
IDEA:
WakSkylicker
NOTES:
So this was hinging on air's theme of flexibility, one turn a 6 hit attacker, and a 6 health defender the next.
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None

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Re: Harpy | Elite Harpy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20436.msg259372#msg259372
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2011, 07:09:32 am »
Not to be a bother but you might need a name change as there is already a card in the forge with the same name.

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,17918.0.html

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Re: Harpy | Elite Harpy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20436.msg259376#msg259376
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2011, 07:21:59 am »
I don't really see why a name change is necessary ;) its not a name currently in game, and its a generic name not invented by anyone on this forum sooo I'd say have a blast.

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Re: Harpy | Elite Harpy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20436.msg259561#msg259561
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2011, 03:08:44 pm »
There the name thing will be an issue for some. the second issue I see is, there is not any male harpies anywhere in folklore, as far as I know. there may be some that will want an image change.
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Re: Harpy | Elite Harpy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20436.msg259565#msg259565
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2011, 03:19:35 pm »
There the name thing will be an issue for some. the second issue I see is, there is not any male harpies anywhere in folklore, as far as I know. there may be some that will want an image change.
I agree with both points. I think Elements should try to be as accurate as possible, and harpies are female  :D

A name change would be easier though, as other already pointed out.

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Re: Harpy | Elite Harpy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20436.msg259604#msg259604
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2011, 04:19:54 pm »
I feel like this card is a bit underpowered...
When it's in it's "attack" mode, it's fragile to any sort of CC.
When it's in "defense" mode, it only has 4hp unupgraded and 6hp upgraded.. which is a bit low since a lot of creatures do have more then 6 attack.

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Re: Harpy | Elite Harpy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20436.msg259607#msg259607
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2011, 04:29:22 pm »
I feel like this card is a bit underpowered...
When it's in it's "attack" mode, it's fragile to any sort of CC.
When it's in "defense" mode, it only has 4hp unupgraded and 6hp upgraded.. which is a bit low since a lot of creatures do have more then 6 attack.
Agreed, since it's not a very strong attack you could make it heaper or the same element as the "harpy" (Air). This would make it more balanced aswell.

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Re: Harpy | Elite Harpy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20436.msg259608#msg259608
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2011, 04:33:31 pm »
Yeah idk... I like the idea but it just doesn't work. Gravity pull is supposed to be a form of CC. Armagio's have 25hp and that's even easily passable in 2 turns. 6hp will just be wasting the two  :gravity to use it's ability.

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Re: Harpy | Elite Harpy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20436.msg259636#msg259636
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2011, 05:22:38 pm »
well... I would NOT say this is UP.

Give it a BB (basilisk's blood) or a few Heavy Armors to avoid the delay, then switch him over to attack mode and bam you have ~20 attack creature for somewhere between;

4 :air 1 :earth and 6 turns delay
or
4 :air and 3 :earth

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I think the gravity pull is a nice counter to this being OP'd actually.  I don't know, perhaps the price of either the ability or the card need to be reduced.

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Re: Harpy | Elite Harpy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20436.msg259832#msg259832
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2011, 08:51:22 pm »
You're going to need to set up really early for that sort of strategy to work, or else your opponent will just blast away all your HP.

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Re: Harpy | Elite Harpy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20436.msg259853#msg259853
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2011, 09:03:47 pm »
I'm a noob at decks buut...

mark of earth
12 air towers
5 harpies
6 heavy armors
2 sky blitz
5 shockwave

doesn't look too difficult to set up...?

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Re: Harpy | Elite Harpy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20436.msg259867#msg259867
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2011, 09:08:41 pm »
I guess it would work against AI3.
But it wouldn't be very effective against another rush deck.
1st turn: Play Harpie
2nd turn: Use it's ability+Heavy armor
3rd turn: Use it's ability.
Most rush decks I know can easily deal 12 damage in 2-3 turns.. and there's also a chance of not getting enough quanta or heavy armor in time for your opponent to be able to kill your Harpie when it's pulled.
And also, since it only has 1hp during the first turn it's on the field, pretty much every single CC card can kill it xD It's fragile..

 

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