Greed | Avarice

[TheManuz]

10 HP isn't steep considering its in the element with vamps and stilletos. The card is just OP all around.

What do you think if the 10 HP are subtracted from the maximum?

[Ekki]

10 HP isn't steep considering its in the element with vamps and stilletos. The card is just OP all around.

What do you think if the 10 HP are subtracted from the maximum?

Draining 10 hp is OK. It's that AND a cost in quanta... Maybe the upped should drain 5 hp.

[TheManuz]

10 HP isn't steep considering its in the element with vamps and stilletos. The card is just OP all around.

What do you think if the 10 HP are subtracted from the maximum?

Draining 10 hp is OK. It's that AND a cost in quanta... Maybe the upped should drain 5 hp.

I agree.

[Uppercut]

Paying 2 to draw 3 is broken outright. You could pay 50 life and the card advantage is just too much.

[Retribution]

Well, what do you suggest the change to be?

Also, I'll take a look at that card mentioned that's in the forge...

EDIT:
@XYTWO
If you were talking about http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,19629.msg266449#msg266449, these cards are actually a whole lot different.

[Thiefboy109]

10 HP isn't steep considering its in the element with vamps and stilletos. The card is just OP all around.

What do you think if the 10 HP are subtracted from the maximum?

Yes to -10 max hp.


Btw, if you play a second one, does the effect stack? or does it just cause you to draw 1 card?
The logic behind the second part of that is as follows...

The first one causes you to draw 3 cards and not draw for 2 turns... So its like -2 becuase you cannot draw for 2 turns...
The second one causes you to draw 3 more cards, so does it cause the -2 to become 1, or give you 3 but stall you for 4 turns(aka -4)

Hope you understood that...

[Ekki]

10 HP isn't steep considering its in the element with vamps and stilletos. The card is just OP all around.

What do you think if the 10 HP are subtracted from the maximum?

Yes to -10 max hp.

I must say no to -10 max hp. What element you are in doesn't matter that much, it's a cheap card, so life could easily use this off mark. Not to mention that we already hace SoD...
IMO, just draining 10 is OK.

[Retribution]

10 HP isn't steep considering its in the element with vamps and stilletos. The card is just OP all around.

What do you think if the 10 HP are subtracted from the maximum?

Yes to -10 max hp.


Btw, if you play a second one, does the effect stack? or does it just cause you to draw 1 card?
The logic behind the second part of that is as follows...

The first one causes you to draw 3 cards and not draw for 2 turns... So its like -2 becuase you cannot draw for 2 turns...
The second one causes you to draw 3 more cards, so does it cause the -2 to become 1, or give you 3 but stall you for 4 turns(aka -4)

Hope you understood that...

Hmm. Yeah, I guess it would work like that, or else it would definitely be OP.

10 HP isn't steep considering its in the element with vamps and stilletos. The card is just OP all around.

What do you think if the 10 HP are subtracted from the maximum?

Yes to -10 max hp.

I must say no to -10 max hp. What element you are in doesn't matter that much, it's a cheap card, so life could easily use this off mark. Not to mention that we already hace SoD...
IMO, just draining 10 is OK.

What about for the upgraded version?

How about the costs are 3 | 2  , with avarice still keeping the effect of draining 10 HP?