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Giant Squid | Kraken https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10556.msg129480#msg129480
« on: August 02, 2010, 01:42:34 am »
NAME:
Giant Squid
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
5 :water
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
5|5
ABILITY:
:water :water Ink Jet: The targeted creature has a 35% chance to miss (lasts 3 turns)
NAME:
Kraken
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
7 :water
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
5|6
ABILITY:
:water :water Ink Jet: The targeted creature has a 35% chance to miss (can be used twice)
ART:
ozplasmic http://browse.deviantart.com/digitalart/?q=kraken#/d2aj5mi and reau http://browse.deviantart.com/digitalart/?qh=&section=&q=Cthulhu#/d10b09v
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NOTES:
Effect is cumulative
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Re: Giant Squid| Kraken https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10556.msg129500#msg129500
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2010, 01:54:38 am »
way owerpowered! 5/5 for 4 is already cheap, but with this ability, i would say imba. and i see no reason for +defense (5 should be max, should stay killable with dmg-spells (lightning often used)), and still: ability far too powerfull.
maybe lower percent of miss chance to about 20% or something

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Re: Giant Squid| Kraken https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10556.msg129501#msg129501
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2010, 01:56:00 am »
way owerpowered! 5/5 for 4 is already cheap, but with this ability, i would say imba. and i see no reason for +defense (5 should be max, should stay killable with dmg-spells (lightning often used)), and still: ability far too powerfull.
maybe lower percent of miss chance to about 20% or something
mmm 35% chances and 6 :water

and kraken cost 8 :water

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Re: Giant Squid| Kraken https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10556.msg129502#msg129502
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2010, 02:00:12 am »
Giant Squid is a much-needed attacker for Mono-Water and has control (which I think is Water's theme) too. +1 Karma for that.

The cost of the ability is fine. This is more of an attacker, and the ability is more of a bonus if you have the quanta for it. (instead of, say, summoning another Giant Squid)

I don't like Kraken, though. I would rather it have the exact same ability as Giant Squid, have a cost decrease and keep the health buff. But it's your card.

EDIT: Add a new option to the poll: The card itself. I like the card idea in general, not just the ability, and the art isn't yours.

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Re: Giant Squid| Kraken https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10556.msg129507#msg129507
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2010, 02:05:39 am »
Giant Squid is a much-needed attacker for Mono-Water and has control (which I think is Water's theme) too. +1 Karma for that.

The cost of the ability is fine. This is more of an attacker, and the ability is more of a bonus if you have the quanta for it. (instead of, say, summoning another Giant Squid)

I don't like Kraken, though. I would rather it have the exact same ability as Giant Squid, have a cost decrease and keep the health buff. But it's your card.

EDIT: Add a new option to the poll: The card itself. I like the card idea in general, not just the ability, and the art isn't yours.
Want do you say if the kraken can target 2 or 3 monster with ink jet? or it still too powerfull

Edit: cost decreased by 1 and health buff +1 the skill has been changed too

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Re: Giant Squid| Kraken https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10556.msg129559#msg129559
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2010, 04:46:18 am »
Giant Squid is a much-needed attacker for Mono-Water
......really?

Abyss Crawler - 6|6 for 4 :water
Arctic Dragon - 13|5 for 11 :water
Toadfish - 6|4 for 5 :water with :air : Inflate
Ulitharid - 3|4 for 3 :water with :aether : Psionic wave

I dare say that Water doesn't "need" any more mid-range attackers. In fact, it has more mid-ranged attackers than any other element.

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Re: Giant Squid| Kraken https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10556.msg129574#msg129574
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2010, 05:18:16 am »
Giant Squid is a much-needed attacker for Mono-Water
......really?

Abyss Crawler - 6|6 for 4 :water
Arctic Dragon - 13|5 for 11 :water
Toadfish - 6|4 for 5 :water with :air : Inflate
Ulitharid - 3|4 for 3 :water with :aether : Psionic wave

I dare say that Water doesn't "need" any more mid-range attackers. In fact, it has more mid-ranged attackers than any other element.
with these comment Element will never have new monsters


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Re: Giant Squid| Kraken https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10556.msg129714#msg129714
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2010, 02:06:38 pm »
Giant Squid is a much-needed attacker for Mono-Water
......really?

Abyss Crawler - 6|6 for 4 :water
Arctic Dragon - 13|5 for 11 :water
Toadfish - 6|4 for 5 :water with :air : Inflate
Ulitharid - 3|4 for 3 :water with :aether : Psionic wave

I dare say that Water doesn't "need" any more mid-range attackers. In fact, it has more mid-ranged attackers than any other element.
He had Giant Squid at 5|5 for 4, and he's unupped. :) Compare unupped:

Blue Crawler - 3|3 for 3
Ice Dragon - 9|6 for 10
Toadfish - 6|4 for 5. But what if you want a mono-water attacker that also has control?
Mind Flayer - 2|3 for 2.

I'm just really annoyed at how Water's creatures fail in comparison to some other Element's creatures.

To be honest, I liked Giant Squid (5|5 for 4?), because he was a good mid-range attacker with a nice damage-cost ratio. The skill, to me, is only an added bonus that can be used, so I don't think it should affect him. Kraken is way too expensive - the skill cost technically costs 4 water, and it's still inferior to, say, a Fog Shield. If he had like 9 attack...

Of course, though, I'm just trying to buff Water. :P

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Re: Giant Squid| Kraken https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10556.msg129871#msg129871
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2010, 07:36:09 pm »
Ooo... I kind of like this Squid idea; are creatures supposedly 'blacked out' when you use the ability on them? Or do they just get some sort of icon on the side?

On that note though, your description has some funky grammar. Perhaps you can change it from:

"Ink Jet: The targeted creature have 35% chances to miss (lasts 3 turns)"

...to something like this:

"Ink Jet: The targeted creature has a 35% chance to miss (lasts 3 turns)"


Also, I suggest you fix the discrepancies between the card art and the table ability box (you seem to have them switched around I believe in terms of wording).

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Re: Giant Squid| Kraken https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10556.msg129921#msg129921
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2010, 08:54:05 pm »
Ooo... I kind of like this Squid idea; are creatures supposedly 'blacked out' when you use the ability on them? Or do they just get some sort of icon on the side?

On that note though, your description has some funky grammar. Perhaps you can change it from:

"Ink Jet: The targeted creature have 35% chances to miss (lasts 3 turns)"

...to something like this:

"Ink Jet: The targeted creature has a 35% chance to miss (lasts 3 turns)"


Also, I suggest you fix the discrepancies between the card art and the table ability box (you seem to have them switched around I believe in terms of wording).
I know : my English grammar suck. Fortunately you are there to correct me!  :))

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Re: Giant Squid| Kraken https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10556.msg130847#msg130847
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2010, 05:26:22 am »
I know : my English grammar suck. Fortunately you are there to correct me!  :))

Finished (I hope i didn't forget something... again)
No problem. :)

Don't forget to add the Water quanta symbols to your table description, or these:  :water

" :water :water Ink Jet: The targeted creature has a 35% chance to miss (lasts 3 turns)" for example.

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Re: Giant Squid | Kraken https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10556.msg161700#msg161700
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2010, 02:05:05 pm »
Based on favour, it feels pretty puny for a mighty Kraken to... you know... bilnd you with its ink.
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