Poll

What secondary ability should this card grant?

Double attack for 1 turn
Shield bypass
Set damage increase
Limit simultaneous casts on one creature.
Other? (Do actually post the suggestion.)

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Fly! | Fly! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39391.msg489905#msg489905
« on: April 30, 2012, 05:52:02 am »
NAME:
Fly!
ELEMENT:
:air
COST:
5
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Grants target creature airborne passive. Doubles attack damage for 1 turn.
NAME:
Fly!
ELEMENT:
:air
COST:
4
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Grants target creature airborne passive. Doubles attack damage for 1 turn.

ART:
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IDEA:
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NOTES:
Was considering adding a shield bypass instead of double attack damage or a set damage increase for 1 turn. I was also considering limiting the number of casts per creature to 1 (or 2). The high cost is due to possible chaining of casts on a single creature creating say 1 turn kills on turn 3. (with just an elite wyrm.)

Note: Didn't know DD made one similar to this.  :o
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« Last Edit: April 30, 2012, 06:06:54 am by justaburd »
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Re: Fly! | Fly! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39391.msg489907#msg489907
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2012, 05:53:53 am »
5 | 4 :air is too much.  Half of Sky Blitz's cost for a much more limited effect?  I'd put it at 3 | 2 :air

Also, done more effectively with Fly | Fly (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,8697.0.html)

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Re: Fly! | Fly! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39391.msg489908#msg489908
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2012, 05:55:12 am »
5 | 4 :air is too much.  Half of Sky Blitz's cost for a much more limited effect?  I'd put it at 3 | 2 :air
Sky Blitz removes remaining :air quanta. Just sayin'
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Re: Fly! | Fly! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39391.msg489909#msg489909
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2012, 05:55:41 am »
I was actually thinking of a card that granted airborne recently too. Also, can the name of a card have grammar? Also, this+chimera=much cheaper version of sky blitz for all your creatures.

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Re: Fly! | Fly! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39391.msg489915#msg489915
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2012, 06:04:17 am »
Also, done more effectively with Fly | Fly (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,8697.0.html)

Doing it based on creature attack (and having it be something you have to activate) wasn't something I think was the right move. It discourages using that card for higher attack creatures, even if it can be spammed every round, which will be hard if it costs a lot. (unless SoR'd) Plus the one in the thread would need web to remove dive. Mine feels simpler. Occam's razor?
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Re: Fly! | Fly! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39391.msg489917#msg489917
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2012, 06:07:35 am »
I just feel it may be too similar to Fly | Fly.  Even the names are far too similar...

In short, Occams's Razor isn't necessarily the best tool for card ideas...

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Re: Fly! | Fly! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39391.msg489970#msg489970
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2012, 09:44:58 am »
u could change to this kind of Fly.
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Re: Fly! | Fly! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39391.msg490148#msg490148
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2012, 05:08:04 pm »
Change to a permanent, and call it something like Enchanted feather? Then it could be used as a sort of anti spider... lol
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Re: Fly! | Fly! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39391.msg490156#msg490156
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2012, 05:14:17 pm »
unfortunately as drake noted, this is very similar to an existing idea (with the dive being one turn only rather than acquiring the skill as in the other card).  as others have suggested, changing it to a permanent may help, but my 2 :electrum would be that that would still not be sufficient difference.  if you were to change it to a permanent, have it grant airborne permanently and something else for 1 turn (or permanently), that may help distinguish it.

on a side note- avoid using punctuation in card names, aside from apostrophes where applicable (as in "Thor's Rage" or something of the sort)
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Re: Fly! | Fly! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39391.msg490221#msg490221
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2012, 08:05:47 pm »
wow, this can allow for some pretty sick combos, including double blitz and even triple blitz(the third blitz is a dive actually) o.O

wyrm+SoR+this+Sky blitz+2 Tu+chimera=120 damage for a 7 card combo
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Re: Fly! | Fly! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39391.msg490267#msg490267
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2012, 09:24:08 pm »
why not just give the creature dive?
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Re: Fly! | Fly! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39391.msg490273#msg490273
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2012, 09:40:36 pm »
because that would make it an exact copy of the spell "fly" in level 3 spells
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