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Fallen Angel | Fallen Angel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36403.msg457644#msg457644
« on: February 07, 2012, 07:44:51 pm »
NAME:
Fallen Angel
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
3 :darkness
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1 | 3
TEXT:
Hell Fire: Deals 3 damages to every enemy creature and removes invisibility when Fallen Angel is killed.
NAME:
Fallen Angel
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
5 :darkness
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
5 | 3
TEXT:
Hell Fire: Deals 3 damages to every enemy creature and removes invisibility when Fallen Angel is killed.
ART:
http://www.sxc.hu/photo/284345
http://www.sxc.hu/photo/1021578
http://www.sxc.hu/photo/1375191
Modified by Vineroz
IDEA:
Vineroz
NOTES:
Original idea:

I know Darkness is pretty "complete", and I didn't create any interesting skills. This card probably make mono Darkness more OP, but the main purpose of posting this card is because I don't want to waste the art :3
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Re: Fallen Angel | Fallen Angel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36403.msg457652#msg457652
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2012, 07:54:43 pm »
the ability has nothing to do with  :darkness you might wanna change this card to  :fire or something like that
possible name could be "fiery angel"

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Re: Fallen Angel | Fallen Angel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36403.msg457659#msg457659
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2012, 08:08:43 pm »
the ability has nothing to do with  :darkness you might wanna change this card to  :fire or something like that
possible name could be "fiery angel"
"fiery angel" has nothing to do with my art ^-^
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Re: Fallen Angel | Fallen Angel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36403.msg457662#msg457662
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2012, 08:16:32 pm »
I think it's OP.

Let's examine:
Rain of Fire 7 :fire | Firestorm 5 :fire

This is not instant like firestorm, but you can activate it with an immolation or something else. So you could reduce the cost by 1, bringing it to 6|4.
I was reducing the cost by 2, but then i considered that there is no way to prevent its activation, except for basilisk blood (and lobotomize, i guess).
It can also be triggered the same turn the creature comes into play, so if you decide to use it, the opponent can't do anything to avoid it.

But it's is also a creature: an 1|3 should cost approximately 1 :darkness, while a 5|3 should cost something like 4 :darkness (3 :darkness because it's upped, see Mummy).
So, the final cost is
unupped: 6 for storm effect + 1 for creature = 7 :darkness
upped: 4 for storm effect + 3 for creature = 7 :darkness

Please note that this is my analysis, and i might be wrong. However i tried to be as accurate as possible.

On the art: i really like it, but i don't like the fading of the fire.

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Re: Fallen Angel | Fallen Angel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36403.msg457681#msg457681
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2012, 09:36:43 pm »
I think it's OP.

Let's examine:
Rain of Fire 7 :fire | Firestorm 5 :fire

This is not instant like firestorm, but you can activate it with an immolation or something else. So you could reduce the cost by 1, bringing it to 6|4.
I was reducing the cost by 2, but then i considered that there is no way to prevent its activation, except for basilisk blood (and lobotomize, i guess).
It can also be triggered the same turn the creature comes into play, so if you decide to use it, the opponent can't do anything to avoid it.

But it's is also a creature: an 1|3 should cost approximately 1 :darkness, while a 5|3 should cost something like 4 :darkness (3 :darkness because it's upped, see Mummy).
So, the final cost is
unupped: 6 for storm effect + 1 for creature = 7 :darkness
upped: 4 for storm effect + 3 for creature = 7 :darkness

Please note that this is my analysis, and i might be wrong. However i tried to be as accurate as possible.

On the art: i really like it, but i don't like the fading of the fire.
*facepalm* I totally forgot Immo...

In that case, yes the card cost must increase. Looking forward to more opinion of adjustments.

About the art, I thought adding fire will make it look more "hellish", no?
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Re: Fallen Angel | Fallen Angel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36403.msg457790#msg457790
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2012, 03:34:54 am »
I think it's OP. You can easily kill it yourself, holy light, snipe, immolate, and it's a free RoF.

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Re: Fallen Angel | Fallen Angel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36403.msg457882#msg457882
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2012, 11:55:50 am »
I think it's OP.

Let's examine:
Rain of Fire 7 :fire | Firestorm 5 :fire

This is not instant like firestorm, but you can activate it with an immolation or something else. So you could reduce the cost by 1, bringing it to 6|4.
I was reducing the cost by 2, but then i considered that there is no way to prevent its activation, except for basilisk blood (and lobotomize, i guess).
It can also be triggered the same turn the creature comes into play, so if you decide to use it, the opponent can't do anything to avoid it.

But it's is also a creature: an 1|3 should cost approximately 1 :darkness, while a 5|3 should cost something like 4 :darkness (3 :darkness because it's upped, see Mummy).
So, the final cost is
unupped: 6 for storm effect + 1 for creature = 7 :darkness
upped: 4 for storm effect + 3 for creature = 7 :darkness

Please note that this is my analysis, and i might be wrong. However i tried to be as accurate as possible.

On the art: i really like it, but i don't like the fading of the fire.
*facepalm* I totally forgot Immo...

In that case, yes the card cost must increase. Looking forward to more opinion of adjustments.

About the art, I thought adding fire will make it look more "hellish", no?
Sure, the fire is ok, it's the fade of the fire that seems strange.

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Re: Fallen Angel | Fallen Angel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36403.msg457923#msg457923
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2012, 04:39:01 pm »
so its basically a pre-loaded corpse explosion? http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,36234.0.html
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