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How should this be changed?

Fine as is
0 (0%)
Make it collapse on itself if you have no creatures
9 (90%)
Go die in a fire
1 (10%)
Go die in a fading dimension
0 (0%)

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Fading Dimension | Fading Dimension https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49454.msg1073879#msg1073879
« on: May 24, 2013, 05:49:10 pm »
NAME:
Fading Dimension
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
12 :entropy
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Arena: Creatures will disappear after 3 turns in play
NAME:
Fading Dimension
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
10 :entropy
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Arena: Creatures will disappear after 3 turns in play

ART:

IDEA:
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NOTES:
This will not activate death effects, similar to reverse time.

Arena: Destroy this card if another Arena card comes into play on either side
SERIES:
Arena

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Re: Fading Dimension | Fading Dimension https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49454.msg1073909#msg1073909
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2013, 06:19:32 pm »
It's unfortunate, because it effects quint'd creatures and automatically nullifies the usefulness of all growth creatures.
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Re: Fading Dimension | Fading Dimension https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49454.msg1073916#msg1073916
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2013, 06:27:15 pm »
Hence it costs all your vital organs and then some.

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Re: Fading Dimension | Fading Dimension https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49454.msg1073935#msg1073935
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2013, 06:48:17 pm »
And that's why I disapprove. It's one thing to use Rain of Fire 6 times to kill everything in a bloody hell- :fire, it's another to simply make sure your opponent loses everything dear to them with no conceivable way of countering, save for PC, which can be prevented in rainbow decks sponsored by an :entropy mark.
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Re: Fading Dimension | Fading Dimension https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49454.msg1073941#msg1073941
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2013, 06:55:55 pm »
I can't really agree, there are enough hard counters in this game and this really isn't the hardest one.

I even kind of like it, except for the fact that it would probably be op in a stall, some Entropy with stand alone Earth mark for EA.  I'd like an addition such as 'Play this only if you own x or more creatures' or anything that is a drawback for a creatureless stall.

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Re: Fading Dimension | Fading Dimension https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49454.msg1073988#msg1073988
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2013, 08:19:54 pm »
Well, that's a good point, but it doesn't fit thematically. Why does fighting in a fading dimension require companions? If you find one that fits better, I'll consider it. ;D

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Re: Fading Dimension | Fading Dimension https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49454.msg1074004#msg1074004
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2013, 08:57:05 pm »
You could have it destroy itself if the owner has no creatures in play. Rationale: you need to have something in the dimension so that it doesn't collapse on itself.

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Re: Fading Dimension | Fading Dimension https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49454.msg1074475#msg1074475
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2013, 02:03:59 am »
Hmmm, that's a good idea. Poll added.

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Re: Fading Dimension | Fading Dimension https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49454.msg1074477#msg1074477
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2013, 02:14:40 am »
Might it only affect one creature? Or one slot on both sides or something?
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Re: Fading Dimension | Fading Dimension https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49454.msg1078533#msg1078533
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2013, 03:20:13 pm »
Well, you can always play Sky or something and this will self-destruct. Yay for Arena special series effect.

Will be changing to self destruct with no creatures soon.

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Re: Fading Dimension | Fading Dimension https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49454.msg1078565#msg1078565
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2013, 04:36:13 pm »
You really need to clarify on the effect. Does it only affect creatures that come into play after Fading Dimension is played? What if Fading Dimension is destroyed within those three turns? Etc.

Well, you can always play Sky or something and this will self-destruct. Yay for Arena special series effect.

You have to really stop relying on this as a balancing mechanic. Even if one implements two cards "Counter Everything" and "Counter Counter Everything" at the same time, the fact that one counters the other does not make either less overpowered. Remember that forcing cards into people's decks only serves to outdate all the decks in the current meta, i.e., disrupt the game balance. I'm pretty sure the community would agree that we want to expand the meta, not refresh it every season like Konami does with Yu-Gi-Oh!.

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Re: Fading Dimension | Fading Dimension https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49454.msg1078593#msg1078593
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2013, 05:32:05 pm »
^ Tell that to phase shield. Seriously. Go do that. It has lone counters of PC, momentum, and spell damage. Before you tell me that those are about 10 cards, there are 12 arena cards. Yeah.

And no, it just affects everything. And destroying Fading Dimension destroys the effect.

 

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