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Re: Energy Surge | Ectoplasmic Surge (Semi-Permalink)
« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2012, 03:22:48 pm »
Energy surge makes it, it seems?
I'm wondering if this might get overpowered with aflatoxin. A full field of malignant cells and a thunderstorm is 23 * 5 = 115 damage for the upped. I guess that could be a new method of OTKO, though...
You'd need much less than that for an OTK. 23*5 is assuming you only have 1 permanent.

If you had 6... you'd only need 4 creatures to die. 34*(5*6) = 120
Well that is of course assuming your opponent has no shield (notes say shields protect against damage) and youve managed to get all 6 out without them being hit by PC . Possible ways to balance: Raise cost and/or have an upkeep cost, or dont allow it to stack, or have it go back to being sparks and ball lightings who'd be affected by sundial (not a huge nerf, but some). Just ideas.
Your awesome ideas:
1. Raise cost: Refer no.3
2. No stack: Yes,, make it un-stackable might be good and balance and no OP..
3. Have it go back to being spark of lightning: Well, if make it to be spark of lightning, it would be OP if owner use momentum or blessing or plate armor.. reply?

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Re: Energy Surge | Ectoplasmic Surge (Semi-Permalink)
« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2012, 05:58:52 pm »
Hmm. Yeah, the exchange of the effect of sundial for being able to buff a card is a bit to much. So, all things considered I'd say either no stacking or an upkeep cost (4 :aether to play the card then drains 1 :aether a turn, as a starting point) Might help if someone who is better at calculating costs commented
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Re: Energy Surge | Ectoplasmic Surge (Semi-Permalink)
« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2012, 03:19:20 am »
So, which one is beter?
1. immortal Spark | Ball of Lightning
2. or deal 3 | 5 damage?
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Re: Energy Surge | Ectoplasmic Surge (Semi-Permalink)
« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2012, 06:08:11 am »
So, which one is beter?
1. immortal Spark | Ball of Lightning
2. or deal 3 | 5 damage?
*Shield are apply.
I like it much better as damage but mirror and emerald shields would have to be able to reflect it.

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Re: Energy Surge | Ectoplasmic Surge (Semi-Permalink)
« Reply #28 on: January 25, 2012, 06:10:41 am »
So, which one is beter?
1. immortal Spark | Ball of Lightning
2. or deal 3 | 5 damage?
*Shield are apply.
I like it much better as damage but mirror and emerald shields would have to be able to reflect it.
Note: If reflective shields reflect the damage the damage is changed from physical to spell damage, meaning other shields -would not- reduce the damage.
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Re: Energy Surge | Ectoplasmic Surge (Semi-Permalink)
« Reply #29 on: January 25, 2012, 08:16:51 am »
So, which one is beter?
1. immortal Spark | Ball of Lightning
2. or deal 3 | 5 damage?
*Shield are apply.
I like it much better as damage but mirror and emerald shields would have to be able to reflect it.
It's not le' spell, it's le damaging.. like creatures damaging..

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Re: Energy Surge | Ectoplasmic Surge (Semi-Permalink)
« Reply #30 on: January 25, 2012, 06:20:56 pm »
I understand that the current idea is to make normal shields block it due to being "physical" damage. However I think it would function far better as spell damage both thematically and balance wise. As physical what happens when it hits procrastination or can it be frozen from permafrost?

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Re: Energy Surge | Ectoplasmic Surge (Semi-Permalink)
« Reply #31 on: January 25, 2012, 06:36:56 pm »
I understand that the current idea is to make normal shields block it due to being "physical" damage. However I think it would function far better as spell damage both thematically and balance wise. As physical what happens when it hits procrastination or can it be frozen from permafrost?
Please look at weapons for those answers. Although this isnt a weapon I imagine the damage would function the same.
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Re: Energy Surge | Ectoplasmic Surge (Semi-Permalink)
« Reply #32 on: January 26, 2012, 04:05:53 am »
Sooo the general consensus at this moment seems to be:
1. Effects are unstackable
2. Deals physical damage (similar to weapons)
3. Perhaps higher cost or an upkeep cost?

I've got an additional, perhaps obvious question that didn't seem to have been explicitly stated yet. But I felt clarification wouldn't hurt.
Does the death of a spark|ball lightning trigger damage? If so, that would create new problems, especially if this spawned sparks...sparking each turn once you get one kill...

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Re: Energy Surge | Ectoplasmic Surge (Semi-Permalink)
« Reply #33 on: January 26, 2012, 02:29:19 pm »
Sooo the general consensus at this moment seems to be:
1. Effects are unstackable
2. Deals physical damage (similar to weapons)
3. Perhaps higher cost or an upkeep cost?

I've got an additional, perhaps obvious question that didn't seem to have been explicitly stated yet. But I felt clarification wouldn't hurt.
Does the death of a spark|ball lightning trigger damage? If so, that would create new problems, especially if this spawned sparks...sparking each turn once you get one kill...
As the text said: every time a creature is killed, a creature is killed mean any creature is killed or die or anything that killed or die.
2. it don't generate spark when any creature is killed, instead dealing damage.

3. MOST IMPORTANTLY: Shield that would reduce the damage OR COMPLETELY BLOCK OR STOP the damage that -Surge would done are apply..

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Re: Energy Surge | Ectoplasmic Surge (Semi-Permalink)
« Reply #34 on: January 27, 2012, 12:36:39 pm »
Does anyone have any question or reason this can't be submitted?

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Re: Energy Surge | Ectoplasmic Surge (Semi-Permalink)
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