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Sorcerer | Warlock https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29905.msg380564#msg380564
« on: August 15, 2011, 06:26:19 pm »
NAME:
Sorcerer
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
3 :darkness
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3 | 2
TEXT:
:darkness: Jinx
Target creature gains -1 | 0.
NAME:
Warlock
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
4 :darkness
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3 | 2
TEXT:
:darkness :darkness: Hex
Target creature gains -1 | 0 with every successful attack.
Stacks.
ART:
piepieple (art taken from Card Art forums)
IDEA:
Frostguard
NOTES:
This card is heavily based on one of my earlier ideas, Jinx | Hex. I made it a creature instead of a spell, made some modifications. For the creature costs, I took Parasite as a base. I think it deserves to be a mono, as it is less effective than Parasite, since it's of best use on creatures the purpose of which is hitting hard, and there's no benefit of using their ability on creatures like Nymphs, Fallen Druids, Otyughs and the rest.
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Re: Sorcerer | Warlock https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29905.msg380565#msg380565
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2011, 06:31:47 pm »
Hm, more duo capability for aether/darkness? This + quint + Lobotomizer and you get a proper no damage, no use creatures on the whole field.

How would it work on antimattered creatures? would Hex bring creatures under 0 attack?


Also, i think it should be made into a spell again for balancing purposes. Jinx lowering attack by 2 and Hex doing the same thing as it does now.
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Re: Sorcerer | Warlock https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29905.msg380574#msg380574
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2011, 06:56:30 pm »
hex is like slow|stop gone horribly wrong, instead of allowing the creature to regain attack slowly back to its normal amount, this slowly decreases it until it is 0- where it will stay.  and if it is antimattered prior to being hexed, it will grow more negative and negative each turn, as antimattered attacks are considered successful attacks, even if they heal rather than damage.
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Re: Sorcerer | Warlock https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29905.msg380639#msg380639
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2011, 10:20:58 pm »
hex is like slow|stop gone horribly wrong, instead of allowing the creature to regain attack slowly back to its normal amount, this slowly decreases it until it is 0- where it will stay.  and if it is antimattered prior to being hexed, it will grow more negative and negative each turn, as antimattered attacks are considered successful attacks, even if they heal rather than damage.
I don't really understand this. Fire Shield deals 1 damage to all creatures that attacked the wielder successfully, yet it does not harm antimattered creatures. No shield seems to affect them. I guess it wouldn't be so hard that this does not affect creatures with negative or zero attack power, I presume.

Hm, more duo capability for aether/darkness? This + quint + Lobotomizer and you get a proper no damage, no use creatures on the whole field.

How would it work on antimattered creatures? would Hex bring creatures under 0 attack?


Also, i think it should be made into a spell again for balancing purposes. Jinx lowering attack by 2 and Hex doing the same thing as it does now.
Unfortunately, the spell version did not have too great success.
Also, about the 'This + quint + Lobotomizer' part - a simple Black Nymph deck does the same. Lobotomise and poison, which is even worse than this.

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Re: Sorcerer | Warlock https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29905.msg380672#msg380672
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2011, 12:34:09 am »
oho, but a black nymph KILLS the creatures. now imagine if every single creature you played was just a stepholder? no use what-so-ever, it's just there, occupying space? (not counting passives) Maybe add water for Mind Flayers and Flooding, and you got yourself the perfect field lockdown while recieving no damage at all.
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Re: Sorcerer | Warlock https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29905.msg380674#msg380674
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2011, 12:36:54 am »
oho, but a black nymph KILLS the creatures. now imagine if every single creature you played was just a stepholder? no use what-so-ever, it's just there, occupying space? (not counting passives) Maybe add water for Mind Flayers and Flooding, and you got yourself the perfect field lockdown while recieving no damage at all.
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Re: Sorcerer | Warlock https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29905.msg380678#msg380678
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2011, 12:39:17 am »
Not necessarily. Try, just try, making it a spell, or maybe make the upped a spell, the unupped a creature? Could work, in my opinion, and having a card go creature -> spell after the upgrade always gets points.
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Re: Sorcerer | Warlock https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29905.msg380680#msg380680
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2011, 12:42:34 am »
I don't really understand this. Fire Shield deals 1 damage to all creatures that attacked the wielder successfully, yet it does not harm antimattered creatures. No shield seems to affect them. I guess it wouldn't be so hard that this does not affect creatures with negative or zero attack power, I presume.
a note would be necessary, try casting antimatter on a puffer fish or forest scorpion and see if it still inflicts the poison (it does).  antimattered creatures ignore shields, thats why they do not take damage from fire shield or any other shield effect for that (anti)matter.

but still, the ability to reduce several creatures attacks to 0 and keep them there is still too much.  slow|stop is balanced by the recovery time and the one time use as a spell, this is not balanced by any mechanic.
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Re: Sorcerer | Warlock https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29905.msg380787#msg380787
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2011, 06:39:39 am »
Just a tweak with the wording... just make it "Loses 1 attack power" instead of gaining -1|0
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