Dual idea: Jawels/Pearls

[The_Aegis]

After looking the Jimizzle's topic about dual pillars, I comed out with this idea to improve dual/trio decks.

I wanted to make a card that is more suited for multi-quantum decks but that will not replace normal pillars totally.

They cost some random mana, so you need some mana (from normal pillars) before playing them.

And, being not a pillar, you can't play more then 6 of them.



I think they should be rare (I think elements needs more rare card, becouse now the collectable part of the game is very small, and I love it), and be like what Mox was for MtG.

P.S.: Having the template of it, I can easily make all combinations of quantums if the forum likes the idea.

[The_Aegis]

So? What you think about them?

[icybraker]

Unneeded and powerful. It will make a lot more people use fire-light decks, thus unbalancing the deck equality of the game.

[The_Aegis]

Unneeded and powerful. It will make a lot more people use fire-light decks, thus unbalancing the deck equality of the game.

You haven't understanded...

This was just an example... I want to make a similar card for ALL dual quantums combinations.

[casthegamer]

This was just an example... I want to make a similar card for ALL dual quantums combinations.

making them rare would probably not be such a great idea then as that would be 60+ different combinations. also, the idea of adding a dual pillars imo, is to create more deck diversity. if a dual pillar in any shape or form does come about, i'd like it to be accessible to everyone.

[icybraker]

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Making dual pillars for ALL the different 2 element combinations will yield a LOT of dual pillars. These are basically more powerful versions of pillars. We already HAVE pillars; why would we want more powerful versions of them just to unbalance mono and trio decks? It would just create more confusion.

[The_Aegis]

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Making dual pillars for ALL the different 2 element combinations will yield a LOT of dual pillars. These are basically more powerful versions of pillars. We already HAVE pillars; why would we want more powerful versions of them just to unbalance mono and trio decks? It would just create more confusion.

First, they are not pillars, but permanents, so only 6 in the deck.

Second, they have a price, and it's not a thing to understimate... You need to pay to play them, so they need normal pillars to be played and are slower (even if more "powerfull" then them).


And, anyway, they are just different... In a mono deck, they are pointless (a lot weaker then a normal pillar).
They are like what quantum pillars are for raimbows... Quantum pillars are a lot more powerfull then normal pillars (couse they generate 3 quantums per turn), but they are suited for raimbow decks.

That permanents are just a tool to make real dual (not just mono with different mark) and trio decks, so they are not just "normal pillars more powerfull", they are a different thing.

[bobcamel]

Agreed. JEWELS (Not javelins, jewels, e instead of a) would be just an addition, as while they conserve some space, they still require quanta to be played and have an amount limit.

[The_Aegis]

Agreed. JEWELS (Not javelins, jewels, e instead of a) would be just an addition, as while they conserve some space, they still require quanta to be played and have an amount limit.

Opps...  I will correct it in the final version, if approved. 

[icybraker]

It's true you can only take a max of 6 and they might still be relatively well balanced, but there's still no need for them. Just use pillars - they cost NOTHING at all. Imagine how many extra cards you'll add to the game just to cover all dual combinations.

[The_Aegis]

Icy, have you ever tried to make a trio deck?

It's about impossible without having SERIOUS problems in getting the quantums you need without making a 60 card deck that is totally dependent on luck on draws...

This card is to resolve this issue, and there is a long post of Jimizzle about that.

[icybraker]

Yes, I have, and 2 different kinds of pillars and a separate mark usually solves the problem. Of course having 3 different kinds of pillars will be awkward, but that's how the game is designed.