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Dreamcatcher | Dreamcatcher (Lucky! Series) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20451.msg259508#msg259508
« on: January 29, 2011, 01:27:24 pm »
NAME:
Dreamcatcher
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
1 :entropy
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Lucky! Either Scramble your opponent's quanta or a random creature in play is enchanted with Antimatter.
NAME:
Dreamcatcher
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
4 :entropy
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
:entropy: Lucky! Either Scramble your opponent's quanta or a random creature in play is enchanted with Antimatter.
ART:
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NOTES:
Another potential "fix" card, but not because of the Antimatter. The Scramble effect may need to be tweaked some.
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Re: Dreamcatcher | Dreamcatcher (Lucky! Series) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20451.msg259519#msg259519
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2011, 01:46:25 pm »
I don't think Zanz wil like adding such random effects in the game.
People already claim this game is to random (and they are wrong), but adding cards like these are even to much of a gamble for me ;)

At least make it so the anti-mattered creature is an opponent creature. (imo)

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Re: Dreamcatcher | Dreamcatcher (Lucky! Series) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20451.msg259648#msg259648
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2011, 05:34:49 pm »
Is the Shuffle the same as Discord's?
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Re: Dreamcatcher | Dreamcatcher (Lucky! Series) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20451.msg259651#msg259651
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2011, 05:39:49 pm »
To be more specific than OldTrees, does the "shuffle" have the same cap as Discord's?

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Re: Dreamcatcher | Dreamcatcher (Lucky! Series) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20451.msg259660#msg259660
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2011, 05:52:48 pm »
My bad, I realized as I was posting the card that the Shuffle could be confusing to some. Just being lazy. That should read "Scramble." :P

Although, my instant reaction was to go with it:

    "Shuffle: you and your opponent exchange quanta.""Shuffle: all of your opponent's quanta gets shuffled clockwise (as per the Oracle's Wheel.)""Shuffle: all of your opponent's quanta is inverted (:fire becomes :water, :light becomes :darkness, :time becomes :entropy, etc)."
For now, we'll say it should read "scramble your opponent's quanta." My apologies.
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Re: Dreamcatcher | Dreamcatcher (Lucky! Series) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20451.msg259667#msg259667
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2011, 05:57:42 pm »
My bad, I realized as I was posting the card that the Shuffle could be confusing to some. Just being lazy. That should read "Scramble." :P

Although, my instant reaction was to go with it:

    "Shuffle: you and your opponent exchange quanta.""Shuffle: all of your opponent's quanta gets shuffled clockwise (as per the Oracle's Wheel.)""Shuffle: all of your opponent's quanta is inverted (:fire becomes :water, :light becomes :darkness, :time becomes :entropy, etc)."
For now, we'll say it should read "scramble your opponent's quanta." My apologies.
Ok so it does Scramble: absorb 10 quanta (randomly each pool with quanta has an even chance) and then generates 10 :rainbow.
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Re: Dreamcatcher | Dreamcatcher (Lucky! Series) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20451.msg259669#msg259669
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2011, 05:59:01 pm »
Ok so it does Scramble: absorb 10 quanta (randomly each pool with quanta has an even chance) and then generates 10 :rainbow.
Ding. I'll update the card sometime today, as I get the time.
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Re: Dreamcatcher | Dreamcatcher (Lucky! Series) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20451.msg263609#msg263609
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2011, 06:26:49 pm »
Card updated and whatnot...any other suggestions or concerns? I'd like to think the card looks good as is but I'm open to suggestions.
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Re: Dreamcatcher | Dreamcatcher (Lucky! Series) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20451.msg263617#msg263617
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2011, 07:01:12 pm »
Card updated and whatnot...any other suggestions or concerns? I'd like to think the card looks good as is but I'm open to suggestions.
It is a very hard card to judge
Scramble is worth 1-2 :entropy but the inconsistency (and slow amount) make me tend to 1-0 :entropy.
Antimatter any creature means that with mostly untargetable sources of damage (weapon, burrowed, immaterial) that it could be worth 5 +/-1 :entropy due to being random but because it can antimatter antimattered creatures I would drop that estimate to 3+/-2 :entropy. As such it is easily near balanced and my uncertainty makes my slight OP estimate less important.

In conclusion, this card is very hard to judge without playtesting. It appears to be very close to balanced.
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Re: Dreamcatcher | Dreamcatcher (Lucky! Series) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20451.msg263820#msg263820
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2011, 01:54:10 am »
This i like, but the total effect feels a tad OP
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