Community Card Design [Card Posted.]

[EmeraldTiger]

We could go with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenghuang since it is almost a Phoenix affect.

[FlareGlutox]

Mhm, something that came to my mind was the Draco Lizard (

).
Its patagia strongly resemble a hang glider in form and function, so that it can use them to escape predators for example (a snake in the video).

So the creatures name would be "Draco Lizard", its active ability name would be "patagia mutation" or something similar and the passive ability it grants would be called "gliding" or something like that.
Here is, what it would look like:

Draco Lizard                   4	Elite Draco Lizard             4
Swift   :Patagia Mutation Target creature gains Gliding: If killed it returns to owner's hand instead.	Swift   Patagia Mutation Target creature gains Gliding: If killed it returns to owner's hand instead
1|3	2|4

The only thematical issue I can think of is gliding not being used upon death by a real draco lizard, but BEFORE it gets into danger.

[TheManuz]

fast, bouncy...Hrm, lol, the Swift, from harry Potter?
Dumb idea, the 'bounce' made me think of a ball, the  theme meant wings, and the swift is both the only winged ball, and the smallest and fastest of all the quiddich balls anyhow I think.

Lol, it could be a crossover between a Pokèball and a Quidditch ball!
The bounce ability becomes "capture" 

We could go with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenghuang since it is almost a Phoenix affect.

This is a nice suggestion. I also read that its tail has 5 colors:  black, white, red, green, and yellow. These colors are said to represent the Confucious' five virtues.
Ren is the virtue of benevolence, charity, and humanity;
Yi, of honesty and uprightness;
Zhi, knowledge;
Xin, the virtue of faithfulness and integrity;
Li, correct behavior, or propriety, good manners, politeness, ceremony, worship.

Maybe "Ren" could be the name of the bounce ability.

Mhm, something that came to my mind was the Draco Lizard (

).
Its patagia strongly resemble a hang glider in form and function, so that it can use them to escape predators for example (a snake in the video).

So the creatures name would be "Draco Lizard", its active ability name would be "patagia mutation" or something similar and the passive ability it grants would be called "gliding" or something like that.
Here is, what it would look like:

Draco Lizard                   4	Elite Draco Lizard             4
Swift   :Patagia Mutation Target creature gains Gliding: If killed it returns to owner's hand instead.	Swift   Patagia Mutation Target creature gains Gliding: If killed it returns to owner's hand instead
1|3	2|4

The only thematical issue I can think of is gliding not being used upon death by a real draco lizard, but BEFORE it gets into danger.

Mhhh... Draco Lizard uses its ability to save himself, not other creatures. "Bounce" ability can be granted to everyone.

I also found another mythological bird with kind of healing properties: the Caladrius (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caladrius).
It's ability is to absorb the sickness from the "patient" and then it would fly toward the sun, burning the sickness. (this is written in the italian wikipedia page, not in the english one).

[Pineapple]

fast, bouncy...Hrm, lol, the Snitch, from harry Potter?
Dumb idea, the 'bounce' made me think of a ball, the  theme meant wings, and the snitch both the only winged ball, and the smallest and fastest of all the quiddich balls anyhow I think.

[ZephyrPhantom]

Final Poll is up!

A Happy New Year to you all! Be sure to vote for your favorite theme!

[rowcla]

lol now we need a card with "sacrifice a creature, generate quanta equal to its cost +1" elite bouncer plus this=INFINITE DEATH LOOP!!!!!!!!

[FlareGlutox]

lol now we need a card with "sacrifice a creature, generate quanta equal to its cost +1" elite bouncer plus this=INFINITE DEATH LOOP!!!!!!!!

And now that everything's allmost finished, this sentence cleares my mind up for a potential combo with bouncer + ball lightning, why didn't I think of that earlier (/facepalm)?

Regardless, I would be unhappy if this was the final poll, since there are some subtleties of the bounce ability left to vote on:

-shall we make "bounce" trigger death effects (it would work similiar to reverse time otherwise)?
-since it is in air, shall the creature be airborne?
-will mutation be able to create mutants of this creature (with the swift-passive and random active abilities)?
-will bounce trigger before or after phoenix/aflatoxin/skull shield? or will it generate an ash/malignant cell/skeleton accordingly AND put a copy of the creature to its owners hand?

I think devour would force the creature to retreat but not feed the Oytugh. (Unless a leg is sufficient for the +1|+1 )

Anyhow...Thematically speaking, the 'hand' in ETG is the 'mind' of the element...I don't see how a 'full' mind would prevent this retreating, but would cause the creature, to the deck next. I suppose if it did that, it should follow RT's example, and be the next card drawn by that player.

And now that I think about it: will make RT bring a creature with bounce on it back to owner's hand or his/her deck?


I know we allready discussed most of these and widely agreed on some suggestions, but for the legitimacy of it, we should set up one last poll about that matter imo.

[ZephyrPhantom]

Eh, it's not impossible for a good story to have an epilogue or a game to have an expansion pack. The reasons I put this up as the "Final" poll was because it's the last thing we need for a (technically) complete card, so if we have to still discuss any minor factors I can always have an "Aftermath" or "Refinement" phase or something like that.
As for my two cents on your points:

lol now we need a card with "sacrifice a creature, generate quanta equal to its cost +1" elite bouncer plus this=INFINITE DEATH LOOP!!!!!!!!

And now that everything's allmost finished, this sentence cleares my mind up for a potential combo with bouncer + ball lightning, why didn't I think of that earlier (/facepalm)?

The best potential combo I can see coming out of that is Bouncer + BL + 2 Fractals. That basically means you have to focus the entire deck on the combo, which should result in a decent but fairly balanced OTK deck. (I'd imagine the extra Fractal and Bouncer would go where the Sky Blitz would be in a BLight Skyblitz deck instead.)

-shall we make "bounce" trigger death effects (it would work similiar to reverse time otherwise)?
No. Creature is technically still alive.
-since it is in air, shall the creature be airborne?
Pretty much decided at this point since all the creatures on the poll 'fly' in one way or another.(Draco Lizard is the only questionable option but it glides anyway).
-will mutation be able to create mutants of this creature (with the swift-passive and random active abilities)?
Swift would a passive that would be in the game database, so yes it could be a passive for mutants. It shouldn't be a possible active since that wouldn't exist in the game database yet.
-will bounce trigger before or after phoenix/aflatoxin/skull shield? or will it generate an ash/malignant cell/skeleton accordingly AND put a copy of the creature to its owners hand?
Aflatoxin overides the Phoenix ability, so I don't think Swift/Other passives override it. Skull shield seems to 'transform' a creature into a skeleton (since status effecst are kept), so I don't think Swift protects from it either.

I think devour would force the creature to retreat but not feed the Oytugh. (Unless a leg is sufficient for the +1|+1 )

Seems a bit specific to code, but it's sensible considering Otys have a huge appetite.

Anyhow...Thematically speaking, the 'hand' in ETG is the 'mind' of the element...I don't see how a 'full' mind would prevent this retreating, but would cause the creature, to the deck next. I suppose if it did that, it should follow RT's example, and be the next card drawn by that player.

I'd agree that a full hand returns the creature to the top of the deck instead RT-style, regardless of what a users interprets the 'hand' as.

And now that I think about it: will make RT bring a creature with bounce on it back to owner's hand or his/her deck?

Reverse Time =/= Death. It goes to the top of the deck.

[OldTrees]

And now that I think about it: will make RT bring a creature with bounce on it back to owner's hand or his/her deck?

RT does not kill. Bounce would not trigger. The creature returns to the deck.

[ninjaclone09]

idea; add a FAQ to the post about the card. put this question in it: What happens if a creature with bounce dies, but your hand is full?

Anyways, heres my thoughts:

Snitch is the only one that actually bounces, but its not even alive, so how could it be a creature? It'd have to be something unique like voodoo doll. Also, it's supposed to be hard to catch, not come back to you. I have a bad feeling that harry potter fans are all going to pick this.

Chickcharney isn't relevant to the card besides it's a bird.

Fenghuang reigns over all the other birds and is mythological. Seems like a pretty nice choice.

Draco Lizard glides, he doesn't bounce. But none of the other choices can bounce either, besides the snitch. But i remember in the video saying it was also called a something dragon. Kinda reminds me of leaf dragon a lot. It'd be an okay choice, I'd just prefer Fenghuang.

Caladrius doesn't fit in the air element. It would have to be in the light element.

My pick is Fenghuang.

EDIT: Actually, i just remembered something; Draco lizard usually glides away when its in danger; i switch my vote to draco lizard.

[TheManuz]

idea; add a FAQ to the post about the card. put this question in it: What happens if a creature with bounce dies, but your hand is full?

Anyways, heres my thoughts:

Snitch is the only one that actually bounces, but its not even alive, so how could it be a creature? It'd have to be something unique like voodoo doll. Also, it's supposed to be hard to catch, not come back to you. I have a bad feeling that harry potter fans are all going to pick this.

Chickcharney isn't relevant to the card besides it's a bird.

Fenghuang reigns over all the other birds and is mythological. Seems like a pretty nice choice.

Draco Lizard glides, he doesn't bounce. But none of the other choices can bounce either, besides the snitch. But i remember in the video saying it was also called a something dragon. Kinda reminds me of leaf dragon a lot. It'd be an okay choice, I'd just prefer Fenghuang.

Caladrius doesn't fit in the air element. It would have to be in the light element.

My pick is Fenghuang.

EDIT: Actually, i just remembered something; Draco lizard usually glides away when its in danger; i switch my vote to draco lizard.

I think there's a misinterpretation here. Bounce ability (but i could be called "retreat", "unsummon", "lucky dodge" or whatever) is granted to others, it's not required that the creature have it itself, even if the creature can give it to itself.
So the fact that the creature bounces itself or not is not really relevant. It's more relevant if the creature can somehow grant this power to other creatures, like a blessing or a special power.

With that in mind, here is my opinion:
Chickcharney is appropriate, since it's said that it rewards with good luck (escaping a death blow could be good luck).
Fenghuang is appropriate because it represents many virtues, including mercy (and saving from death is a sign of mercy to me).
Caladrius is also appropriate for me, because it's said to draw out sickness from people to heal them (this could be stretched to saving creatures when they're about to die).
Draco Lizard, somehow should grow patagia on other creatures. I think it's a little stretched but it could work.
The Snitch... how it could grant the ability to avoid a fatal blow to other creatures? If we find a nice flavor for this, it could be appropriate too.

[Zaealix]

Snitch definitly wasn't the best idea I had...But my thought was that the Snitch would slam the creature out the field to the player's hand or something, I also was trying to create a more 'original' creature that was still thematically appropriate...