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Alchemistry | Superior Alchemistry https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33878.msg427312#msg427312
« on: November 18, 2011, 05:03:02 pm »
NAME:
Alchemistry
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
0
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Next spell you play will use random quanta, but at triple the cost.
NAME:
Superior Alchemistry
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
4
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Any spell you play this turn will use random quanta, but at double the cost.
ART:
Heartsriker
IDEA:
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NOTES:
Some decks have a second element just to use a spell from that element. Alchemistry could solve that, at a higher price, of course.

Any spell that depletes a specific quanta completely cannot be used along with Alchemy
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Re: Alchemistry | Superior Alchemistry https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33878.msg427328#msg427328
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2011, 05:43:07 pm »
love it. the cost is random, but tripple (that part i might not like, maybe double), it can use ANY spell at all, AND its an other card (promotes use of mono other decks)
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Re: Alchemistry | Superior Alchemistry https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33878.msg427347#msg427347
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2011, 06:28:01 pm »
I don't understand how this card works...
Let's suppose this card is in the game and i have it in my hand: what's is its cost?
Then let's suppose decide to play it: what happens? what's is its effect? please explain step by step

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Re: Alchemistry | Superior Alchemistry https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33878.msg427354#msg427354
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2011, 06:41:38 pm »
alchemy don't have card cost (or should say 0  :rainbow)

use this card > target 1 of your spell in your hand in this case 'fire bolt' > normal firebolt cost is 3  :fire after targeted by this card(unuped), it turn into 9  :rainbow

right?

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Re: Alchemistry | Superior Alchemistry https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33878.msg427360#msg427360
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2011, 06:50:34 pm »
alchemy don't have card cost (or should say 0  :rainbow)

use this card > target 1 of your spell in your hand in this case 'fire bolt' > normal firebolt cost is 3  :fire after targeted by this card(unuped), it turn into 9  :rainbow

right?
OK, now it's clear!
If i suggest an alternate wording, i will use this text:
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Target spell in your hand is duplicated. Its cost is in random quanta and tripled.It's nice, but i think i will be very difficult to code.

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Re: Alchemistry | Superior Alchemistry https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33878.msg427412#msg427412
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2011, 08:53:03 pm »
It's interesting but I like the triple cost at all.. double would be reasonable. Also, I'm feeling that the card is meant to be whatever spell you want by clicking it and then choosing the spell you want from a list, which I'm not sure is great.. Maybe Heartsriker will help us out.
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Re: Alchemistry | Superior Alchemistry https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33878.msg427447#msg427447
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2011, 10:32:35 pm »
the only problem i see is how it'd work..

i mean, does it copy the last spell played?

do you target a spell in your hand?

in which case:
alchemy don't have card cost (or should say 0  :rainbow)

use this card > target 1 of your spell in your hand in this case 'fire bolt' > normal firebolt cost is 3  :fire after targeted by this card(unuped), it turn into 9  :rainbow

right?
OK, now it's clear!
If i suggest an alternate wording, i will use this text:
Code: [Select]
Target spell in your hand is duplicated. Its cost is in random quanta and tripled.It's nice, but i think i will be very difficult to code.
much better, i think...
for simplicity's sake XD

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Re: Alchemistry | Superior Alchemistry https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33878.msg427465#msg427465
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2011, 11:10:18 pm »
Alright, fixed. Sorry for the confusion guys.

Also, I do realize that targeting spells in your hand would be difficult to code, since there is no other card that does the same, so I propose that the next spell you play.

Though I wonder, if you can target spells from hand, it could be interesting if you used precognition on the opponent then use alchemy to duplicate a spell from their hand...

Cost is high because it will save you ALOT of trouble for decks that rely on one spell card whose element is different from the main part of the deck. Say you wanted to do a Devtosis, you could just remove the life pendulums and use alchemy instead. Of course it doesn't make much difference, but when you have a triple element deck you could prevent your deck from becoming cluttered with different pillars with Alchemy

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Re: Alchemistry | Superior Alchemistry https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33878.msg427466#msg427466
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2011, 11:12:38 pm »
Don't worry about coding issues like that too much. As it happens, targeting spells in your hand would not be that difficult to code.
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Re: Alchemistry | Superior Alchemistry https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33878.msg427614#msg427614
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2011, 05:42:00 am »
changed the mechanics?? :o :o

it looks better in :rainbow s now XD

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Re: Alchemistry | Superior Alchemistry https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33878.msg427670#msg427670
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2011, 07:58:55 am »
Triple sounds way too underpowered to be useful.

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Re: Alchemistry | Superior Alchemistry https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33878.msg427782#msg427782
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2011, 01:13:49 pm »
Edited for balance. I figured I can't make superior alchemy increase the price by 150% (because it looks ugly when typed), so it will now affect all spells that you play. Great for combos, and no need to stock up on Alchemy, but it now has a small price to it, since it's way better than alchemy.

Any other suggestions for balance?

 

anything
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