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No bonus despite winning with 100% health [confirmed] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33233.msg419407#msg419407
« on: November 02, 2011, 01:45:14 pm »
Hi, I've noticed since the last update that in some cases, even I finish the game with 100% health my score is not doubled.

This happend when the opponent is killed by a weapon (and not by creatures). So, for example in level 3 I'm scoring 20 instead of 40.
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Re: No bonus despite winning with 100% health https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33233.msg419408#msg419408
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2011, 01:48:36 pm »
You speak about the vampire dagger?It heals you after the game is finished, so no more EM with it.
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Re: No bonus despite winning with 100% health https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33233.msg419429#msg419429
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2011, 02:30:06 pm »
You speak about the vampire dagger?It heals you after the game is finished, so no more EM with it.
It's the Jade Staff, but 'im almost sure some shards of gratitude also heal me to 100% before the jade staff hits.
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Re: No bonus despite winning with 100% health https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33233.msg419430#msg419430
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2011, 02:31:05 pm »
You speak about the vampire dagger?It heals you after the game is finished, so no more EM with it.
It's the Jade Staff, but 'im almost sure some shards of gratitude also heal me to 100% before the jade staff hits.
Nope, you hit then the permanents are healing.
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Re: No bonus despite winning with 100% health https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33233.msg419432#msg419432
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2011, 02:35:29 pm »
Nope, you hit then the permanents are healing.
The SoGs would have done their effect before the weapon hit, unless he played quite a few permanents before SoGs.
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Re: No bonus despite winning with 100% health https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33233.msg419434#msg419434
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2011, 02:38:47 pm »
Anyway, i'm finishing with 100%, and get 20 points in level 3 which is strange. I thought we can't get 20 points : 10...19 and 40
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Re: No bonus despite winning with 100% health https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33233.msg419435#msg419435
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2011, 02:42:44 pm »
Nope, you hit then the permanents are healing.
The SoGs would have done their effect before the weapon hit, unless he played quite a few permanents before SoGs.
I'm pretty sure that in 1.293 the damage is done before any healing, this is why LS EM isn't working.Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Re: No bonus despite winning with 100% health https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33233.msg419439#msg419439
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2011, 03:02:35 pm »
Nope, you hit then the permanents are healing.
The SoGs would have done their effect before the weapon hit, unless he played quite a few permanents before SoGs.
I'm pretty sure that in 1.293 the damage is done before any healing, this is why LS EM isn't working.Correct me if I'm wrong.
Zanz didnt change anything except for the weapon hitting. SoG's and all other permanents still use thier abilities in the same manner. If the SoG's would have healed before, they heal now.
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Re: No bonus despite winning with 100% health https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33233.msg419446#msg419446
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2011, 03:13:50 pm »
The game now ends immediately at 0 HP. There was no change to the order permanents take effect.
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Re: No bonus despite winning with 100% health https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33233.msg419453#msg419453
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2011, 03:32:26 pm »
Hmm...testing shows that SoGs heal before the weapon hits AND also give me an EM.  If you can somehow get screenshots showing SoGs (not the weapon) not granting an EM at the end of the turn then I think it would much more helpful for everyone here.
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Re: No bonus despite winning with 100% health https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33233.msg420478#msg420478
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2011, 05:55:08 pm »
Confirming this, I was rather surprised but got only 20 electrum when finishing with 100 HP against the FFQ elder.
I also hit with the Jade Staff, I think it makes sense, because it ends immediately, the +5 is done before the hp is set back to max hp, temporarily giving you 105/100 hp, hp =/= max hp so you get no EM.

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Re: No bonus despite winning with 100% health https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33233.msg420524#msg420524
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2011, 07:13:07 pm »
Confirmed in v1.293

I used the 500EM deck vs Ferox from majofa's "Oracle : Ferox" thread1.

Final round, used remaining 5 stone skins to boost health to 510/500.  Space to end turn, overdriven oty hits, and Ferox is defeated but I received ~129 gold with no Elemental Mastery message.

Did not take a screenshot as was not expecting any issues.  From memory: Ferox had a jade shield, staff, and numerous bonds but no creatures. I had 4 otys, no weapon or shield, and 4x shards of gratitude.  1 card remaining on my side.  Remembered the 510 hp as I thought that was weird.

Not sure if the 510/500 is itself a bug.  Didn't see anything in the known bug list about health greater than 500 so if you guys consider that a separate bug I'll open a new thread.


[1] http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,9596.0.html

 

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