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Re: Shrieker | Elite Shrieker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23290.msg430216#msg430216
« Reply #24 on: November 24, 2011, 09:49:26 pm »
Graboid is generally accepted as OP. Shrieker by itself is balanced. Buffing shrieker directly buffs graboid. This is not what we want since Graboid is kinda OP as it is.

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Re: Shrieker | Elite Shrieker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23290.msg430262#msg430262
« Reply #25 on: November 24, 2011, 11:34:01 pm »
I think unupped shrieker is too expensive for its fragility. Lowering its cost by 1 makes sense. Compare it to unupped phoenix. Phoenix needs 2 cc, shriker needs only one.
People who talk about graboid should probably go to the graboid topic, this is about the shrieker.
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Re: Shrieker | Elite Shrieker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23290.msg430771#msg430771
« Reply #26 on: November 25, 2011, 11:15:56 pm »
the whole point of grabboid is to make a shriekerl, so any conversation about grabby is a convo about shrieker.
Buffing this is madness (though i suppose makes sense in a masochistic kind of way lol)

I think unupped shrieker is too expensive for its fragility. Lowering its cost by 1 makes sense. Compare it to unupped phoenix. Phoenix needs 2 cc, shriker needs only one.
People who talk about graboid should probably go to the graboid topic, this is about the shrieker.

Phoenix is 7 quanta 7 damage and has a way of avoiding death for an extra quanta
shrieker is 8 quanta 8 damage and has a way of avoiding death for an extra quanta

seems pretty balanced to me tbh :P
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Re: Shrieker | Elite Shrieker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23290.msg430809#msg430809
« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2011, 01:17:46 am »
Burrow is generally vastly inferior to Phoenix as an ability to avoid death, just saying.

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Re: Shrieker | Elite Shrieker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23290.msg430812#msg430812
« Reply #28 on: November 26, 2011, 01:21:16 am »
aye i did have that :P there for a reason... although you could say it has different uses, you cant fully protect a phoenix, where you can a shrieker, ready to pounce for a final kill, but you are right it is inferior
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Re: Shrieker | Elite Shrieker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23290.msg430873#msg430873
« Reply #29 on: November 26, 2011, 03:06:30 am »
you can now get hit through buurow?! thats kewl! XD

Re: Shrieker | Elite Shrieker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23290.msg475030#msg475030
« Reply #30 on: March 28, 2012, 05:42:56 am »
Graboids are strong enough as they are.

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Re: Shrieker | Elite Shrieker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23290.msg475253#msg475253
« Reply #31 on: March 29, 2012, 02:40:46 am »
this is dumb it would make the shriker even more annoying to get rid of

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Re: Shrieker | Elite Shrieker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23290.msg475722#msg475722
« Reply #32 on: March 30, 2012, 05:25:20 am »
That would be logical and the idea is actually quite nice :) Many people however seems to think that it would make shrierker too powerful. (And this is probably true) :(

We also need to make an Ass-blaster so that shrierkers can further evolved! :P (Well maybe we don't need that) But I still like your idea.

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Re: Shrieker | Elite Shrieker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23290.msg475723#msg475723
« Reply #33 on: March 30, 2012, 05:30:49 am »
fract grabboids isnt the primary fear, its making one form of creature control useless to these already very strong cards. Besides, if anything needs rt resistance, its gravity
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Re: Shrieker | Elite Shrieker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23290.msg477216#msg477216
« Reply #34 on: April 02, 2012, 05:59:39 pm »
Would fractal work on a burrowed creature?

Either way, I think it'd be more detrimental to the earth deck if rewind just sent the shrieker back into the hand, that way they'd have to pay the full  :earth cost. If this suggestion was made to prevent that, then .... oh ... kay

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Re: Shrieker | Elite Shrieker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23290.msg479185#msg479185
« Reply #35 on: April 11, 2012, 09:49:03 am »
Would fractal work on a burrowed creature?

Either way, I think it'd be more detrimental to the earth deck if rewind just sent the shrieker back into the hand, that way they'd have to pay the full  :earth cost. If this suggestion was made to prevent that, then .... oh ... kay

Nope fractal cannot target burrowed creatures.

 

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