[Official] Flooding | Inundation

[ddevans96]

Flooding still costs 3 quanta to play.

[killybob]

it is an immensely disappointing buff anyway.

[godofdeath500]

it is an immensely disappointing buff anyway.

I agree, but it is a buff nonetheless. It is better than giving it no buffs at all.

[killybob]

but then again, what is the point in giving it a buff that none wants. that's two buffs within a month of each other. it's a real waste of zanz time. why cant we all settle down with the fact that it needs completely reworking. the effect is redundant in all but 3 decks that have been pointed out.

[Pineapple]

What about we change earthquake (including earthquake used by trident) to absorb/drain/whatever ALL quanta from the opponent's (always opponent) quanta pool from the element of the pillars? Like nymph's tears, quantum pillar would do 1 random element.

What about making it add one turn of freeze to every frozen creature when you play the card?

[godofdeath500]

1. What about we change earthquake (including earthquake used by trident) to absorb/drain/whatever ALL quanta from the opponent's (always opponent) quanta pool from the element of the pillars? Like nymph's tears, quantum pillar would do 1 random element.

2. What about making it add one turn of freeze to every frozen creature when you play the card?

1. This sounds like a massively overpowered Black Hole. Earthquake already has a limit, and that is that it destroys only 3 towers, same with Black Hole, except that it removes 3 quanta per element. I don't think anyone would want a game-ender on a stick in the game (and I mean Trident).

2. This idea actually sounds good, but I think it would be even better if it froze any creature in the top and bottom rows, instead of just killing them. Of course, then Freeze/Congeal [and any cards that freeze (Ice/Permafrost, Ice bolt/Lance, Squid, and the card itself)] would need to be nerfed, and if that is the case, then I vote that creatures be given a 1 turn immunity after being frozen.

[JaguarLive]

few ideas
-make it clear the whole or mid field, avoiding quited, airborne, water, and/or undead
-make it flood opponents top and bottom but only one level of caster (top OR bottom)
-remake it into a spell and effects are instant
-get rid of it

[tiebearius]

I actully like the idea instead of upper and lower rows, It should be a checker board. Killing every other creature spot.

[killybob]

i think most of us can vote that that is the very best way to go. it gives water a bit more CC and makes flooding far more usable than with any other suggestion so far. maybe there should be a poll which has some of the best suggestions produced so far. i really hope this card is given a PROPER buff soon.

[Ekki]

Innundation is not UP (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,23118.new.html#new)

With its recent buff, Innundation is no longer UP as a standalone card, it only needs MOAR SYNERGY. Dunno what could be, but there must be a crapload of cards to create that can combo pretty well with this gem. Now you can even run it off mark! (after turn 4, anyways, who spams over 7-10 creatures so fast?)

I now think it's OK. The Game might be imbalanced, but that's a constant Buff/Nerf/Card Creation cycle, so I think we should go to the CI&A board if we want to "fix" any problem this card might still have.

[ZephyrPhantom]

Innundation is not UP (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,23118.new.html#new)

With its recent buff, Innundation is no longer UP as a standalone card, it only needs MOAR SYNERGY. Dunno what could be, but there must be a crapload of cards to create that can combo pretty well with this gem. Now you can even run it off mark! (after turn 4, anyways, who spams over 7-10 creatures so fast?)

I now think it's OK. The Game might be imbalanced, but that's a constant Buff/Nerf/Card Creation cycle, so I think we should go to the CI&A board if we want to "fix" any problem this card might still have.

ERHEM. *clears throat*

There is a competition to make a card to Buff Flooding right now! (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,22850.0.html)

[Ekki]

ERHEM. *clears throat*

There is a competition to make a card to Buff Flooding right now! (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,22850.0.html)

Yeah, but I think there are better ways of buffing it than making a card that directly works with flooding. Flooding needs Synergy, but not "underwater" kind of synergy, I mean some way of exploiting that 7 spaces you will leave to your opponent.
Most soft CC does that. You delay a creature, so it can't attacks you, and against 7 creatures, delaying is easy, so you just have to play 3 octopii and freeze everything. More effects abusing that "only 7 spaces" would buff Flooding.
So you only need a card that can be combo'd with it. It can be an underwater card, but many of them are broken (I wanna see you spamming until 7 creatures to get a non-OP-balanced effect), so the best way is to abuse that 7 spaces, not looking into the other 14. Wow, that sounded like a cool tip.