[Official] Firefly Queen | Elite Queen

[omegareaper7]

Its slowness has nothing to do with the meta.  The card was intentionally gimped when not necessicary.

The card originally cost 6 and was in no way OP in PvP, but because ffq was part of a great FG deck at the time it was nerfed because the deck had a higher win rate than Zanz liked. 

Was the winrate as good as Instosis?

I'm not completely sure, but i think the original god killer had about a 90% win rate. So in short, aside from speed, yes.

[Pineapple]

Its slowness has nothing to do with the meta.  The card was intentionally gimped when not necessicary.

The card originally cost 6 and was in no way OP in PvP, but because ffq was part of a great FG deck at the time it was nerfed because the deck had a higher win rate than Zanz liked. 

Was the winrate as good as Instosis?

I'm not completely sure, but i think the original god killer had about a 90% win rate. So in short, aside from speed, yes.

But aren't most of the gods of the time on Instosis's Easy-Medium list?

[Absol]

Its slowness has nothing to do with the meta.  The card was intentionally gimped when not necessicary.

The card originally cost 6 and was in no way OP in PvP, but because ffq was part of a great FG deck at the time it was nerfed because the deck had a higher win rate than Zanz liked. 

Was the winrate as good as Instosis?

I'm not completely sure, but i think the original god killer had about a 90% win rate. So in short, aside from speed, yes.

But aren't most of the gods of the time on Instosis's Easy-Medium list?

With around 67% winrate, which is still not as high.
FG is not the reason to nerf a card, though, so a buff back would be nice. But according to creature cost mechanics, FFQ is just balanced.
Firefly Queen    7 = 3 attack +4 (Spawns creatures) +2 (HP > 5) -1 (duo ability) -1 (Air Bonus)
Quoted directly from the wiki.

So, a buff or not?

[OldTrees]

FG is not the reason to nerf a card, though, so a buff back would be nice. But according to creature cost mechanics, FFQ is just balanced.
Firefly Queen    7 = 3 attack +4 (Spawns creatures) +2 (HP > 5) -1 (duo ability) -1 (Air Bonus)
Quoted directly from the wiki.

So, a buff or not?

That is a bit out of date (it was first generation).
1) The Elemental bonuses have been fully discredited since the Gnome / Dragonfly buff. Now the cost of drawing a card (+1 cost unit) is included in the left side.
2) Firefly is a Duo card, using a Third element to generate a Duo card is usually a Trio ability (-2).

Firefly Queen    6 + 1 card = 3 attack +4 (Spawns Firefly) +2 (HP > 5) -2 (trio ability)

However this is from the 2nd generation when a 3rd generation theory is overdue.

[Silver]

I'm not completely sure, but i think the original god killer had about a 90% win rate. So in short, aside from speed, yes.

whaaaaaat. Sorry to create/extend this mega offtopic but can I see this deck? What was in it? I can't really imagine FFQ being that good.

[swishy]

I'm not completely sure, but i think the original god killer had about a 90% win rate. So in short, aside from speed, yes.

whaaaaaat. Sorry to create/extend this mega offtopic but can I see this deck? What was in it? I can't really imagine FFQ being that good.

I'm pretty sure it was SG's 'ultimate' deck, or some variant thereof: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,132.0.html
FFQ was basically a cheap way of extra damage and mutation/otyugh fodder. Of course, what made it really powerful and effective was 2-turn sundials, and the whole idea fell apart after they got nerfed.

[Marsu]

I guess 1  less and it would be fine.

[ddevans96]

IMO, this is the quintessential example of an 'elements' card, it really is one of the most diverse, powerful and symbolic of most things with elements.

If I was to sticky one topic as my last act as GS&F Moderator, and the last act of any GS&F Moderator ever (lol@Feedback Manager) it would be this one.

- 1 cost to FFQ!!!

You would be so elated right now, Drunk

[ZephyrPhantom]

For clarification:

Firefly queen cost reduced to 6

UI:
New lycanthrope, pufferfish, colossal dragon, sapphire charger and firefly queen art (by vrt and pepokish)

Does this mean the thread will be locked now that the buff has taken place? (A new one can be started for Post-1.31 FFQ if it still needs to be buffed.)

[pikachufan2164]

Does this mean the thread will be locked now that the buff has taken place?

Not until v1.31 comes live with the balance change.

[Silver]

This card was not competitive when it costed 6 and it still had been nerfed. It is was a huge mistake, as it made the Queen almost unplayable.

Honestly I feel like even with the upcoming buff this topic may arise again. FFQ deserves to be good, and I think most people feel the same way.

Quite pleased that Zanz is listening though.