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[Official] Dragonfly | Damselfly https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10412.msg127743#msg127743
« on: July 30, 2010, 05:42:51 am »


According to the (rather old) card usage statistics, this card is one of the least used. IMO this card is kind of pointless. The unupgraded version has pretty much no purpose. It's almost as bad as the skeleton. The upgraded version is a bit better, but still not very impressive. While it's the Air version of the Brimstone Eater, the Brimstone Eater helps Fire fuel Fahrenheit and Fire Bolt, and can also serve as a Cremation target, but Air can't really capitalize on large amounts of Air quanta.
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Re: Dragonfly | Damselfly https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10412.msg127745#msg127745
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2010, 05:59:55 am »
IMO (still I think it means International Mathematical Olympiads) this card is well balanced as it is, sure air as no need of extra quantum, but think about damselfly as a biting pillar: it can be destroyed like a normal pillar, but it can't be stolen, and helps you a bit in finishing your opponent.

It's not in sinergy with other card (e.g. RoL+hope) but can be pretty useful.

In spite of that I think Dragonfly is useless (even more than a skeleton, since it hasn't a spamming card).

I also think that the serie of quanta productor weenie can be finished with those elements who haven't.
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Re: Dragonfly | Damselfly https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10412.msg127756#msg127756
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2010, 06:31:30 am »
I just think a "pump spell" card is needed for :air.  And not a bolt or shield, please.

(I have never seen the term "pump spell" used so many times as when this board was created.)

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Re: Dragonfly | Damselfly https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10412.msg127775#msg127775
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2010, 07:06:42 am »
I used to like Damselfly before Shard of Gratitude decided to run rampant in the top 50. Damselfly is amazing at whittling down your opponent's health, and it replaces its cost, so it's pretty much a free creature. Unfortunately, this card is pretty much unplayable now with the current game environment. This card doesn't need to be buffed, though. Other cards need to be nerfed.

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Re: Dragonfly | Damselfly https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10412.msg127855#msg127855
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2010, 12:10:08 pm »
I don´t think this card should be buffed too.

But maybe like the fire examples you gave, new air cards to make synergy with this card could be made.

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Re: Dragonfly | Damselfly https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10412.msg128071#msg128071
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2010, 07:23:11 pm »
I think that since Damselfly has identical stats to brimstone eater, and brimstone eater doesn't need buffed damselfly doesn't need a boost either.

I think what damselfly needs is more cards that it can work with. I think this card isn't used much because there isn't much in the way of  :air quanta intensive cards, not because the card isn't good.

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Re: Dragonfly | Damselfly https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10412.msg128375#msg128375
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2010, 04:04:52 am »
A bit off-topic and not really the point of the thread, but if Air had a better way of utilizing large amounts of Air quanta, this guy would be much more useful.

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Re: Dragonfly | Damselfly https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10412.msg128414#msg128414
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2010, 05:40:19 am »
It's a common misconception that quantum-producing creatures are a form of acceleration. They aren't. Devourers/Pests take two turns before they break even, and the other creatures break even at the end of the turn they are summoned. After that, they are just creature-pillars. Gnome Gemfinder is the worst of the five quantum creatures (Gnome, Damsel, Brimstone, Devourer, RoL), so it sees pretty much no play, apart from a weird fractal stall with Gemfinders or something. Damsels and Brimstones, on the other hand, are very good at shaving your opponent's health while providing quanta towards your bigger threats. They are much better than pillars or towers in this respect. Of course, the existence of SoG in upped play means that players are required to attack with large swarms of bigger creatures, or a few REALLY big creatures (i.e. Golem/Destroyer), leaving no place to use these little creatures.

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Re: Dragonfly | Damselfly https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10412.msg128426#msg128426
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2010, 06:03:47 am »
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Nice post.  Very enlightening.

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Re: Dragonfly | Damselfly https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10412.msg128498#msg128498
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2010, 12:41:57 pm »
see this to pic and try to build air+aether by use damselfly with air dragon and fractal...

air element want some thing to use air quantum you say?  but i'm still want more air quantum....

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Re: Dragonfly | Damselfly https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10412.msg128582#msg128582
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2010, 04:18:31 pm »
In summary, then, the card is fine, we're just waiting for another card with some synergy, a "pump spell", thank you Smuglapse (and Wavedash).  Leave this card alone, it's time will come.  Ok, as Karis said, pseudo RoL-hope deck, with Damselfly & Air Dragons (to sub for Golden Dragons).  Phase Shield doesn't have the same synergy as Hope/RoL, though.

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Re: Dragonfly | Damselfly https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10412.msg129364#msg129364
« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2010, 09:55:26 pm »
Well, damselflys and dragonflies are both predators of flying insects...


Maybe some sort of ability to attack flying creatures?

 

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