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Re: upgrade bone wall with this :D https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21818.msg299110#msg299110
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2011, 10:32:58 am »
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Re: upgrade bone wall with this :D https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21818.msg299183#msg299183
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2011, 02:49:29 pm »
It's fine... when I'm facing those dreaded God-Killer decks in Top 50 the bonewall stops almost all rushes cold...

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Re: upgrade bone wall with this :D https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21818.msg299233#msg299233
« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2011, 04:01:50 pm »
it completely depends what deck you use. if it's creature heavy you'll probably die badly. if not then he'll get nowhere near 100 bones and you'll have a very easy job. stacking bones would be bad news as it would mean that, as well as regular growth from killed creatures, he will pile up more and more against you far too quick to recover from. besides it's not just morte who i would worry about. PvP would get ridiculous with everyone rushing to pile up around 30 bones as quick as possible.
He gets his bonewall up because of my fireflies and skeles.I have like 20 creatures and then he plays a retrovirus =P

My stuff creatures die, he gets a massive bonewall, but I always seem to recover.

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Re: upgrade bone wall with this :D https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21818.msg322244#msg322244
« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2011, 12:02:37 am »
no buff needed if you know how to feed it and take advantage of the mechanic (vultures, boneyard, soulcatcher or whatever it's called)
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Re: upgrade bone wall with this :D https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21818.msg334314#msg334314
« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2011, 08:42:06 pm »
Stacking would not be a serious buff.  Six Bone Walls already provide 42 hits' worth of protection, you just have to wait until the last one runs out before you play another.  The only situation where stacking would be a buff is when the opponent has more than 7 creatures out at once, because some damage will then leak through.  (Minor buff also for when opponent has 2-6 creatures out, since on the turn the Wall expires, a hit or two leaks through.)

I don't see a problem with allowing them to stack, but it's far from necessary.

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Re: upgrade bone wall with this :D https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21818.msg342867#msg342867
« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2011, 11:01:26 pm »
this card already shuts down fire rushes and other rushes that rely on death effects such as: aflo-rushes, Schrodinger's vulture decks and will really screw up fractalightning. i say just leave it as it is as it is already strong enough

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[Official] Bone Wall | Bone Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21818.msg1091028#msg1091028
« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2013, 10:45:47 am »


Actually, this buff is not for making the card better compared to the other shields (I'm think too this is a very good shield), but there's a thing what I want to propound.

"Why don't Bone Wall stacks?"

The Bone Wall is a shield, what gives you 7 shield counter, every counter negates 1 attack. When Deflagged, it's lose 1 counter, so that means the Bone Wall is not 1 shield, it's 7 shield counter and an effect in them. But with this logic, when this card gives you 7 counter, I don't get why you lose every shield, when you build a new wall. Despite the other shields, you don't have to ruin down the older shield to build up the new one, you can build the new ON the old, as like the old can get a counter by using the bones and skulls of the creatures.

Dimensional shield is the best shield in-game, but there's not really other shield to compare with (Dissipation is one too, but I think it's the second best, so there's no real improvement), but you can stack Dim. shield optimally without inner help. You see, when the counter becomes 0 and make an other without taking ANY damage. But if there's a Bone wall on field with 3 counter, an other in your hand and the opponent have 5 creature, you don't really have a good choice...

Thanks for reading!
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Re: Bone Wall | Bone Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21818.msg1091031#msg1091031
« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2013, 11:33:06 am »
You have a point. I wouldn't mind logically. But: As you say yourself, Bonewall is very strong already. And wether you want it or not, this does buff Bonewall - and that is not acceptable given its already huge usefullness in my opinion.

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Re: Bone Wall | Bone Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21818.msg1091047#msg1091047
« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2013, 01:55:20 pm »
In a deck that can power Bonewall, it´s even stronger than Dim Shield or Disipation Shield, so any buff to this card would be too much.
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Re: Bone Wall | Bone Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21818.msg1091142#msg1091142
« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2013, 01:46:36 am »
No. Don't buff Bone Wall.
It's immune to Deflag and Steal (kinda). It's even more fun when it has cats to back it up...
(Also trying to create some crazy bonewall deck ATM. The best test so far has gotten me around 20 walls.)
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Re: Bone Wall | Bone Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21818.msg1091164#msg1091164
« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2013, 09:17:23 am »
No. Don't buff Bone Wall.
It's immune to Deflag and Steal (kinda). It's even more fun when it has cats to back it up...
(Also trying to create some crazy bonewall deck ATM. The best test so far has gotten me around 20 walls.)
Try Rain of Fire on malignant cells. As long as you keep them not attacking before your RoF or you keep Bone Wall in hand it's ok.

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Re: Bone Wall | Bone Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21818.msg1091188#msg1091188
« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2013, 02:41:40 pm »
There is a joke thread in off-topic to buff dim-shield -- its a fun thread.
I have totally expected to see something like that when I clicked on the thread title.

But it turns out, OP is actually serious ?!?!  :o

 No!. Just, no! Please, let's not buff cards that are already OP...

 

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