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Re: Antlion/Elite Antlion (poll ready for voting) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12781.msg172518#msg172518
« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2010, 09:36:44 pm »
I could agree the unupped needs a buff, I never burrow it either way (might as well die if 1 attack is the alternative...) so might as well make it say 3|3
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Re: Antlion/Elite Antlion (poll ready for voting) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12781.msg172553#msg172553
« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2010, 10:12:26 pm »
Antlion doesn't need a buff in my opinion. I think the only reason it nseems so weak is because the rest of Earth's cards are so powerful compared to other Elements.

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Re: Antlion/Elite Antlion (poll ready for voting) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12781.msg176507#msg176507
« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2010, 10:57:24 pm »
Upped one definitly does not need a buff. 4|4 with burrow, for 2 :earth is very good.
Unupped one.. it's less powerful than other earth creatures, and is pretty much totally eclipsed by graboid. Now, are :earth creatures too powerful in general? hm.
I agree with 3|3 crowd. Or even make it 3|2 if that is too much.

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Re: Antlion/Elite Antlion (poll ready for voting) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12781.msg176747#msg176747
« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2010, 04:33:04 am »
that is not andlion fault!

it's because of earth have so many good creature

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Re: Antlion/Elite Antlion (poll ready for voting) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12781.msg177562#msg177562
« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2010, 01:25:14 pm »
The problem i see, is that you would need to buff BOTH of them. If antlion turns into a 3/3 (also really not that good) then the upgrade only gives a +1/+1, which would make it a really poor upgrade.
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Re: Antlion/Elite Antlion (poll ready for voting) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12781.msg177605#msg177605
« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2010, 03:00:12 pm »
The problem i see, is that you would need to buff BOTH of them. If antlion turns into a 3/3 (also really not that good) then the upgrade only gives a +1/+1, which would make it a really poor upgrade.
What's so bad about +1/+1?
There are few creatures who get that much better when upgraded, without an increase in their cost. There's nothing poor about that...
Especially since burrowing it would then be more profitable, and because 3 is the amount of damage of a lot of CC.

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Re: Antlion/Elite Antlion (poll ready for voting) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12781.msg192994#msg192994
« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2010, 03:36:55 am »
The only decent strategy I can think of for it is adrenaline/empathy. Its not a mid-range attacker by any means, that would require 3 attack power. Its the kind of card you would imagine trying to give an ability, but there are no decent passive abilities worth giving that are worth protecting. Its HP is too low to firepotion, and shield/firepotion is just too many cards for too little advantage. The absolute best thing I can figure with am antlion is to use blessing on it, but that is still just weak.

My suggestion is to make the antlion targetable by its owner while it is burrowed, that would give it some synergies.

Of course so,me recoding would be needed to differentiate its burrow from the shriekers or the shrieker would need to lose its burrow ability.

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Re: Antlion/Elite Antlion (poll ready for voting) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12781.msg193309#msg193309
« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2010, 04:49:52 pm »
The only decent strategy I can think of for it is adrenaline/empathy.
FRACTAL!!!

You could go for an earth duo, or a fractalbow like this http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11325.0.html

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Re: Antlion/Elite Antlion (poll ready for voting) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12781.msg193391#msg193391
« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2010, 06:54:32 pm »
You are fractaling a bunch of creatures that do 2 damage and thats good?

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Re: Antlion/Elite Antlion (poll ready for voting) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12781.msg193394#msg193394
« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2010, 06:57:11 pm »
You are fractaling a bunch of creatures that do 2 damage and thats good?
Obviously that would be better for elite antlion. In a rainbow with multiple low cost creatures for fractal it's pretty decent.

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Re: Antlion/Elite Antlion (poll ready for voting) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12781.msg193400#msg193400
« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2010, 07:07:54 pm »
Well, I was talking unupgraded.

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Re: Antlion/Elite Antlion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12781.msg260886#msg260886
« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2011, 12:20:28 am »
Sorry for necro, but this topic needs a bump.

Unupgraded antlion just plain sucks. The burrow ability? That most often works against this card. Lowering it's attack to a mere 1. I say buff the stats, and perhaps take away the burrow ability :\

Upgraded antlion is perfect. 4|4 stats with :earth for burrow is very nice.
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