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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg506226#msg506226
« Reply #468 on: May 31, 2012, 06:36:02 pm »
Chapuz, i dont really get what you are saying.
If you do make a singularity it will hit before the dragons and you cant heal them to over 200 hp, so your dragons will still kill no matter how many singularities you have. Also, sundials stop singularities as well, so the vampire ones will only hurt you on the last turn.
It can kill you if it gains Vampire. Generally, you have low HP late game, so this is a trouble. (though, there is always Sundial to the rescue)
Also, Chimera for FG which needs it.
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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg506230#msg506230
« Reply #469 on: May 31, 2012, 06:47:08 pm »
You usually arent that low,
With 22 health you can always play 2 sn 3 turns before you win and with 36 health it jumps up to 4.
Considering this deck has ~ 10 ttw and you have to wait 2 turn before even being able to play a sn, i dont forsee vampires being a problem
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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg506313#msg506313
« Reply #470 on: May 31, 2012, 09:36:44 pm »
84-92 today in plat. 23200 electrum on sold cards. probably 10k more with wins.

A few notes :
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  • Early SoFo/double SoFo/pulvy/gravity nymph is autoquit
  • Late SoFo is manageable
  • The best way to avoid singularities on last turn is to play dragon, mitosis it all you need, then supernova all you need.
  • Fire or dark decks without sofo can be manageable, depending on amount of PC/early pests
  • Chimera is a GREAT way to get rid of early singularities.
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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg506825#msg506825
« Reply #471 on: June 02, 2012, 10:28:14 am »
Is it really any point to upgrade Mitosis and Chimera? Sky Blitz costs more than them anyway and you need Skyblitz just as much. You use mitosis before using the SoR, so it seems completely meaningless to upgrade it.
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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg506827#msg506827
« Reply #472 on: June 02, 2012, 10:34:50 am »
Not completely. Indeed you could use that  :life on SoRs cast after. But it's not on the top of the list by a long shot.
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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg506882#msg506882
« Reply #473 on: June 02, 2012, 02:51:48 pm »
well, besides having a fully upped deck,  chimera is used in many otks and mitosis is used in several other decks, so i wouldn't say it is completely useless to upgrade them, however, upped or unupped will not affect the winrate of this deck.

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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg507216#msg507216
« Reply #474 on: June 03, 2012, 01:18:22 pm »
Your tips for upping the sundials and the time factories (only three more to be fully upped) gave a better revenue versus Half-bloods so I guess I'll give some pointers versus them in return :)

I used the minimally upped deck and used it against HB's

1. 3 shards are enough to OTK most HB's
2. Changing the Wind Pillar into a Quantum Tower (the HB was nice enough to give me one) feeds shards better and protects from pests and black holes
3. Mitosis doesn't to be upped at all
4. It's okay to have to a singularity in the last turn.

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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg507790#msg507790
« Reply #475 on: June 05, 2012, 02:31:57 am »
Got an 8 turn win against morte :P I was just wondering, what´s really better to use uped or unuped sundials? Can it be added as a poll?
EDIT: First EM win on Obliterator :)
EDIT 2: 8 turn win on Obli :P
EDIT 3: 8 turner on Elidnis...
What the hell is up with the turn killings? O.o I had only won once or twice at 8 turn before this.
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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg509216#msg509216
« Reply #476 on: June 08, 2012, 11:41:22 pm »
I dont remember where but i think one guy figured out that unupped sundials and +1 pillar was the best for this deck. I use this personally, although several of my towers are still unupped

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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg509271#msg509271
« Reply #477 on: June 09, 2012, 02:26:25 am »
I tried both options and saw that unupped sundials are better. They may, sometimes, delay the deck for 1 turn to play a 2nd super early hourglass but that's never critical in the games. Upped sundials screw the mulligan many many times, leaving you with a non-pilar starting hand and auto quitting.
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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg509278#msg509278
« Reply #478 on: June 09, 2012, 02:39:01 am »
Oh boy. We should get new stats for the 1.31 AI as well as stats for unupped dials.

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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg511743#msg511743
« Reply #479 on: June 16, 2012, 09:02:32 am »
Fantastic deck I'm using agaist FG right now.

I'd love to see the opening post updated considering Akebono and Osiris have SoFo and saying in the God to God breakdown with wich God you can play the dragon earlier (no CC or no Phase Shields he can put down)
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