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Re: Unstable clone | Unstable clone https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28625.msg366033#msg366033
« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2011, 06:03:59 pm »
creating a +|+ 'creature' is what makes it a spell, not a creature.  if it were a creature PU would make a 6|10 creature to be absorbed, not a +|+ 'creature.  im never going to agree with you, so you can stop trying whenever you feel like it. zanz himself could come here and say "i intended it to be a creature" and i'd tell him it acted more like a spell than a creature.

back to the actual topic, i think you could name it amorphous mimic or something along those lines as a better fit
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Re: Unstable clone | Unstable clone https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28625.msg366062#msg366062
« Reply #25 on: July 14, 2011, 06:49:11 pm »
Whew, that was a long discussion!  :D
Anyway, i think that the problem of the Chimera is a programming thing, and if ever necessary, Zanzarino will deal with it.

Consider that those 3 natural counters are barely used as well. Spark is often sacrificed to summon better creatres, malignant cells come from the costly aflatoxin which doesn't see much use, and Chimera is barely seen.
Well, maybe not mainstream cards, but they exist, and they're counters.

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Re: Unstable clone | Unstable clone https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28625.msg366063#msg366063
« Reply #26 on: July 14, 2011, 06:55:33 pm »
Very very nice idea. I can see a mean deck with this + Deja Vus + Dragons...
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Re: Unstable clone | Unstable clone https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28625.msg366067#msg366067
« Reply #27 on: July 14, 2011, 07:05:16 pm »
nvm, just saw it in notes.  good combo there for sure
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Re: Unstable clone | Unstable clone https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28625.msg366080#msg366080
« Reply #28 on: July 14, 2011, 07:55:14 pm »
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Re: Unstable clone | Unstable clone https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28625.msg366106#msg366106
« Reply #29 on: July 14, 2011, 09:01:42 pm »
Doppelganger | Deranged Doppelganger?
Not bad, i like the dual name for unupped | upped.

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Re: Unstable clone | Unstable clone https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28625.msg366113#msg366113
« Reply #30 on: July 14, 2011, 09:12:39 pm »
doppleganger sounds more like a :darkness card than an :entropy card, i suppose you can adjust the element based on whatever name you decide
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Re: Unstable clone | Unstable clone https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28625.msg366114#msg366114
« Reply #31 on: July 14, 2011, 09:16:00 pm »
I like the idea.

But I'm confused about the OP's example of Deja Vu. It says you get 2 unstable clones, but wouldn't it be like so:

- You play Unstable Clone.

- You then play a Deja Vu.

- Unstable Clone becomes a Deja Vu with mimic.

- Your next turn (opponent didn't play any creatures) you use Deja Vu ability of Dejavu; Unstable clone becomes dejavu without dejavu ability.

oops. Now I realize how deja vu works with this.
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Re: Unstable clone | Unstable clone https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28625.msg366122#msg366122
« Reply #32 on: July 14, 2011, 09:28:19 pm »
doppleganger sounds more like a :darkness card than an :entropy card, i suppose you can adjust the element based on whatever name you decide
This card is really random, so i cannot think another element other than  :entropy. And after discovering that Chimera is its nemesis, i think that the element is chosen.

I like the idea.

But I'm confused about the OP's example of Deja Vu. It says you get 2 unstable clones, but wouldn't it be like so:

- You play Unstable Clone.

- You then play a Deja Vu.

- Unstable Clone becomes a Deja Vu with mimic.

- Your next turn (opponent didn't play any creatures) you use Deja Vu ability of Dejavu; Unstable clone becomes dejavu without dejavu ability.

oops. Now I realize how deja vu works with this.
I like the name as it is.
The way it interacts with DejaVu is really twisted!  ;D I like it!
Also thanks for your feedback about the name.

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Re: Unstable clone | Unstable clone https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28625.msg366133#msg366133
« Reply #33 on: July 14, 2011, 09:48:56 pm »
then make sure the name/image/theme is :entropy ish or itll just seem out of place
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Re: Unstable clone | Unstable clone https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28625.msg366194#msg366194
« Reply #34 on: July 15, 2011, 12:32:45 am »
Name it Ditto.    ._.
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Re: Unstable clone | Unstable clone https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28625.msg366198#msg366198
« Reply #35 on: July 15, 2011, 12:56:33 am »
Before I comment on the card, I have to bring this up:

i think of it as a spell because it melds all creatures together into one, +|+ being the atk|hp basically seals the deal to me.
So having attack/defense with variables instead of having a spell symbol makes it a spell to you? Oh the irony.


Now, about the card itself. I love the interaction with many cards in the game, and I do think it's balanced as is, although +1 cost certainly wouldn't hurt any.

Does Mimic copy passive abilities as well?
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