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Re: Unstable clone | Unstable clone https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28625.msg365970#msg365970
« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2011, 04:17:20 pm »
Does this affect Phase Dragon/Immortal?
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Re: Unstable clone | Unstable clone https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28625.msg365979#msg365979
« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2011, 04:34:28 pm »
Is this really cheap or is it just me?
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Re: Unstable clone | Unstable clone https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28625.msg365985#msg365985
« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2011, 04:43:20 pm »
right, but what im saying is that the chimera is essentially a spell, not a creature when in play, even if PU works, chimera being put into play is not the same as a creature being put into play, even though it goes into the creature field. 
Is Chimera a spell OR is Chimera a creature? Because i think it is a creature that kills all creatures you own when it comes into play and then is a normal creature.

"Chimera played by opponent: will cause Unstable Clone to morph into a Chimera, that will absorb all your creatures (it still retain its Mimic passive skill)."
but if you want to keep it as is, chimera is a pretty effective way to destroy the person using the mimic card, play chimera, then play a photon, you just turned all of the mimics' players creatures into a single photon.
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Does this affect Phase Dragon/Immortal?
I think it should, because there is no targeting, it's a passive ability.

Is this really cheap or is it just me?
Please explain why.
Remember that you will need another creature to make it survive the first turn.
And Spark, Malignant Cell and Chimera are natural counters!

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Re: Unstable clone | Unstable clone https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28625.msg365987#msg365987
« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2011, 04:46:44 pm »
Consider that those 3 natural counters are barely used as well. Spark is often sacrificed to summon better creatres, malignant cells come from the costly aflatoxin which doesn't see much use, and Chimera is barely seen.
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Re: Unstable clone | Unstable clone https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28625.msg365995#msg365995
« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2011, 04:57:52 pm »
"Is Chimera a spell OR is Chimera a creature? Because i think it is a creature that kills all creatures you own when it comes into play and then is a normal creature."

i think of it as a spell because it melds all creatures together into one, +|+ being the atk|hp basically seals the deal to me.
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Re: Unstable clone | Unstable clone https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28625.msg365999#msg365999
« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2011, 05:01:34 pm »
Sadly, your answer is ... wRONG! :P It's a creature. You can even PU it, fractal it ect. Creature.
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Re: Unstable clone | Unstable clone https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28625.msg366004#msg366004
« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2011, 05:08:34 pm »
Wiki rules it as a creature as well.
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Re: Unstable clone | Unstable clone https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28625.msg366005#msg366005
« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2011, 05:11:25 pm »
chimera is a spelly creature, a creature that works like a spell but still a creature.

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Re: Unstable clone | Unstable clone https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28625.msg366010#msg366010
« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2011, 05:19:03 pm »
i disagree with many things in game (most notably the classifications of many "active" abilities), and maintain my opinion.  if it were a creature, PUing it would create a second one, or at least double its stats, but it doesnt.
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Re: Unstable clone | Unstable clone https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28625.msg366012#msg366012
« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2011, 05:23:57 pm »
If it were a spell, it'd have the spell icon, not stats.

Besides, this is not an opinion, but a fact.

PU does! create a second one. But the second one uses its passive cause it's coming into play, and therefore absorbs previous one (and i believe any other creature you have).
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Re: Unstable clone | Unstable clone https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28625.msg366021#msg366021
« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2011, 05:45:07 pm »
"PU does! create a second one. But the second one uses its passive cause it's coming into play, and therefore absorbs previous one (and i believe any other creature you have)."

no, if PU made a second one, it would make copy of the 6|10 creature, then combine it with the other chimera to make it a 12|20 creature, but iirc it just flashes in/out of existence.  it is a spell pretending to be a creature.
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Re: Unstable clone | Unstable clone https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28625.msg366027#msg366027
« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2011, 05:51:31 pm »
"PU does! create a second one. But the second one uses its passive cause it's coming into play, and therefore absorbs previous one (and i believe any other creature you have)."

no, if PU made a second one, it would make copy of the 6|10 creature, then combine it with the other chimera to make it a 12|20 creature, but iirc it just flashes in/out of existence.  it is a spell pretending to be a creature.
If it were, PUing it *WOULD* make the situation you give.
It makes a copy of the 6 | 10 creature. after which, it absorbs creatures, and its stats become +|+.
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