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Tadpole | Elite Tadpole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19717.msg250215#msg250215
« on: January 17, 2011, 04:32:42 pm »

Tadpole | Elite Tadpole
NAME: Tadpole
ELEMENT: Water
COST: :water
TYPE: Creature
ATK|HP: 0 | 1
TEXT: Produces another tadpole at the end of each turn.

 :life : Grow
Turn into a Horned Frog.
NAME: Elite Tadpole
ELEMENT: Water
COST: :water
TYPE: Creature
ATK|HP: 0 | 1
TEXT: Produces another tadpole at the end of each turn.

 :life : Grow
Turn into a Giant Frog.
ART: Nik_V
IDEA: Nik_V
NOTES: Entirely new form of Frog rush. Quickly swarm the field with tadpoles and grow them to frogs. Opens up Life and  Water synergy. Powerful combo with Empathic Bond.

Hint : Once a tadpole becomes a Horned/Giant Frog it loses the ability to produce tadpole copies. If you don't use the grow ability early on, faster the tadpoles swarm the field and also with greater number of tadpoles but leaves you with risk of all of them getting wiped out at once. But if you turn them immediately into frogs, you won't be able to get the maximum benefit of this card.
SERIES:

(http://imageplay.net/view/m7Gbd123710/Tadpole) (http://imageplay.net/view/m7Gbd123711/Elite_Tadpole)
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Re: Tadpole | Elite Tadpole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19717.msg250220#msg250220
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2011, 04:34:38 pm »
I like this card, and the synergy it opens up. Anyway, I think it should be a  :life card with  :water cost. Just a feeling tho.

Great idea overall.

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Re: Tadpole | Elite Tadpole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19717.msg250221#msg250221
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2011, 04:35:50 pm »
Balanced.
4 :water=0(attack)+5(skill value)-1(duo skill)
4 :water=0(attack)+7(skill value)-1(duo skill)-2(upgraded)
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Re: Tadpole | Elite Tadpole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19717.msg250309#msg250309
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2011, 06:07:36 pm »
i'm like it...     a bunch of little tadpole dissapear cuz storm....    :))


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Re: Tadpole | Elite Tadpole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19717.msg250311#msg250311
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2011, 06:11:31 pm »
It has to be fragile because of its powerful effect :)

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Re: Tadpole | Elite Tadpole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19717.msg250862#msg250862
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2011, 06:15:20 am »
Looks good so far.


Yeh, it is supposed to be a risky card if you are looking for more rewards. But to reduce risk you can immediately turn the tadpoles to frogs cause frogs got better hp but by doing so you will end up with less tadpoles in the field since frogs don't have the tadpole's ability to produce another tadpole. So if you take the risk and somehow fill the field with tadpoles, then you can immediately convert them all into frogs.


It might seem imbalanced when you think that this single card can bring around 20+ frogs if they survive few turns but a single storm can kill all tadpoles and RoF can wipe out the entire frog army along with tadpoles. Also its a much expensive strategy than it seems at first since frogs are cheap 2 quanta creatures and you are paying 1 quanta and also waiting for one turn using this method.


I like this card, and the synergy it opens up. Anyway, I think it should be a  :life card with  :water cost. Just a feeling tho.

Great idea overall.
I think Tadpoles really spend their entire life under water until they grow into frogs. They are better considered belonging to water element.

Also tadpoles being water they can survive flood. Also Grow sounds like a  :life ability than a  :water ability.
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Re: Tadpole | Elite Tadpole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19717.msg250892#msg250892
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2011, 07:25:30 am »
Love it.  Fits well thematically.  Get some life/water synergy going.  Did you really draw those tadpoles from scratch!?

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Re: Tadpole | Elite Tadpole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19717.msg250894#msg250894
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2011, 07:28:49 am »
Balanced.
4 :water=0(attack)+5(skill value)-1(duo skill)
4 :water=0(attack)+7(skill value)-1(duo skill)-2(upgraded)
Out of curiosity, where did you get those numbers (5|7) for the skill values?

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Re: Tadpole | Elite Tadpole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19717.msg250920#msg250920
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2011, 08:38:42 am »
Love it.  Fits well thematically.  Get some life/water synergy going.  Did you really draw those tadpoles from scratch!?
Yeh, but inspired from many google images of tadpoles.
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Re: Tadpole | Elite Tadpole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19717.msg251017#msg251017
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2011, 01:27:17 pm »
Balanced.
4 :water=0(attack)+5(skill value)-1(duo skill)
4 :water=0(attack)+7(skill value)-1(duo skill)-2(upgraded)
Out of curiosity, where did you get those numbers (5|7) for the skill values?
The two effects of tadpole imitate a typical FFQ like spawning
Spawning a Horned Frog is worth 5 (3attack+0(1-5hp)+2)
Spawning a Giant Frog is worth 7 (5attack+0(1-5hp)+2)

For more details check: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,16655.0.html
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Re: Tadpole | Elite Tadpole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19717.msg251019#msg251019
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2011, 01:29:20 pm »
And the CCT (Cards' Cost theory) is in his sig. It's awesome.

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Re: Tadpole | Elite Tadpole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19717.msg251137#msg251137
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2011, 04:11:56 pm »
Balanced.
4 :water=0(attack)+5(skill value)-1(duo skill)
4 :water=0(attack)+7(skill value)-1(duo skill)-2(upgraded)
Balanced.
4 :water=0(attack)+5(skill value)-1(duo skill)
4 :water=0(attack)+7(skill value)-1(duo skill)-2(upgraded)
The two effects of tadpole imitate a typical FFQ like spawning
Spawning a Horned Frog is worth 5 (3attack+0(1-5hp)+2)
Spawning a Giant Frog is worth 7 (5attack+0(1-5hp)+2)

For more details check: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,16655.0.html
I never knew that. All those seems very complicated. I think i got lucky start that the card was balanced from the beginning.    :D
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