Magnetic Sword | Magnetic Blade

[majofa]

Made it past the Crucible, thanks for the support!

It's now in the Forge - Permanents (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,6847.0.html), please keep up your support!

[TheManuz]

Made it past the Crucible, thanks for the support!

It's now in the Forge - Permanents (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,6847.0.html), please keep up your support!

Congratulations, Majofa!
I really like this card! It's evil and powerful and awesome and will spread rage all over the world!
I must say that it seems very powerful, but then i thought of Discord that deals 6 damage and costs 3 and has the scramble effect, and i thought this is ok.
I guess it's gravity style to have badass (i mean with high damage) weapons!

[majofa]

I know!
Who doesn't want to have a fearsome card?

[majofa]

Lost by one vote, hopefully this time it can push through!
Forge - Permanents (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,6847.0.html), thanks for the continued support!

[majofa]

Just a few days left in the polls, vote now for 's answer to Discord!

[Anarook]

People keep saying "Oh it's not so bad because it can only use its ability if the opponent has a weapon"
That in no way makes this balanced, look at this card from the opponent's perspective. This isn't permanent control, it's permanent denial.
If you're playing someone who has this out or you know they have it, you're not going to play any weapons because doing so is going to give them a massive creature for 2 and you'll just end up wasting quanta.

The ONLY way I could see to balance this and maintain its current effects is to:
1) Lower the base damage
2) Make it a duo card or make it not destroy the opponent's weapon.

You guys should be ashamed of yourselves, only looking at this card from one perspective...

[OldTrees]

People keep saying "Oh it's not so bad because it can only use its ability if the opponent has a weapon"
That in no way makes this balanced, look at this card from the opponent's perspective. This isn't permanent control, it's permanent denial.
If you're playing someone who has this out or you know they have it, you're not going to play any weapons because doing so is going to give them a massive creature for 2 and you'll just end up wasting quanta.

The ONLY way I could see to balance this and maintain its current effects is to:
1) Lower the base damage
2) Make it a duo card or make it not destroy the opponent's weapon.

You guys should be ashamed of yourselves, only looking at this card from one perspective...

If Magnetic Blade is played before the opponent is armed, it will be a 6 attack weapon that disables the opponent's weapon slot
for 3 + weapon slot + 1 card.

If Magnetic Blade is played after the opponent is armed, it will be a 6+X|1 creature that destroys the opponent's weapon
for 5 + 1 turn + 1 card ~= 6 + 1 card.


For reference:

Lobotomizer is a 5 attack weapon with the Lobotomize ability
for 3 + weapon slot + 1 card

Deflagration + Ash Eater is a 2|1 creature plus 1 use of PC
for 4 + 2 cards ~= 6 + 1 card

[majofa]

It's also extremely fragile.

[Anarook]

"Fragile"
It's susceptible to the same PC every weapon is.
Most weapons don't have a ton of HP either...

[ZephyrPhantom]

"Fragile"
It's susceptible to the same PC every weapon is.
Most weapons don't have a ton of HP either...

And most weapons don't immediately die to a Fire Shield after one use of their ability.

This card doesn't gain a weapon's HP and it's stats are 6 | 1. If you don't have sort of protection ready this dies to a lot of things that deal damage. (Sidenote:  -every- weapon [including Longsword] has an ability clause that overwrites a Creature using Endow on it. I assume the same applies for Magnetism on weapons w/no actual ability.)
Not really related, but the effect sort of reminded me of Flying Sword for being able to fly itself. (The two cards are very different.)

[OldTrees]

It's also extremely fragile.

I do not think it is more fragile than 1hp.
My post uses a reference that also has 1hp.
What is your response to my references?

[Arwulf]

Please clarify for perspective:

- On general grounds, should the card be judged from a power level perspective (i.e. is its strength comparable to other weapons) or from a metagame perspective (is it desirable to add this weapon to the current set of cards)?

- On a specific note, is Morning Star save from Magnetic Sword since its text explicitly says 'Can not be destroyed or stolen'?