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Flame Warrior | Blazing Swordsman https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12249.msg152826#msg152826
« on: September 05, 2010, 10:54:44 pm »
NAME:
Flame Warrior
ELEMENT:
Fire
COST:
5 :fire
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
5|2
TEXT:
Inflame: This creature gains +2/+1 at the end of every turn it fails to deal damage. Freezing effects last 1 turn.
NAME:
Blazing Swordsman
ELEMENT:
Fire
COST:
4 :fire
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
5|2
TEXT:
Inflame: This creature gains +2/+1 at the end of every turn it fails to deal damage. Freezing effects last 1 turn.
ART:
Art by solknight (modified by Thalas)  Art Link :)) (http://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=advasrch-Fire%20swordsman%3Afi-name%2Cauthor%2Ctags%2Cdescription%3Afu-CREATURE%2CTRIBE_CREATURE%2CCIV_CREATURE%2CSPACE_CREATURE%2CADVENTURE_CREATURE%2CCITY_HALL%2CHOUSE%2CINDUSTRY%2CENTERTAINMENT%2CUFO%2CADV_ATTACK%2CADV_COLLECT%2CADV_DEFEND%2CADV_EXPLORE%2CADV_UNSET%2CADV_PUZZLE%2CADV_QUEST%2CADV_SOCIALIZE%2CADV_STORY%2CADV_TEMPLATE%3Am-LAND%2CAIR%2CWATER%3Ap-MILITARY%2CECONOMIC%2CCULTURAL%2CCOLONY%3Aidx-40%3Afl-MOST_POPULAR)
IDEA:
Napalm
NOTES:
The card pretty much says it all. If this creature fails to deal damage to the opponent, it gets stronger, ever so slowly. Also, I believe that with this wording, it would actually grow through antimatter. Unless negative "damage" is still considered damage.

IMPORTANT: Skill is NOT passive and is thus lobotomizable.
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Re: Flame Warrior | Blazing Swordsman https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12249.msg152853#msg152853
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2010, 11:15:18 pm »
Sundial and the other time effects don't actually cause an unsuccessful attack- they make it so that no attack is actually made at all.
But I think it's a cool idea- any shield it can't  hit psat just makes it stronger. Even sorts out Hope shields, although the time taken to do that means I don't think it's OP.  I like the idea behind it - Everything that stops it just makes it stronger

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Re: Flame Warrior | Blazing Swordsman https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12249.msg152860#msg152860
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2010, 11:23:14 pm »
Ok, so wording is always an issue. We can fix that :P
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Re: Flame Warrior | Blazing Swordsman https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12249.msg152867#msg152867
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2010, 11:43:27 pm »
I really think this card is OP. By my calculations this card's cost is too low for what it does.
Here they are:

Flame Warrior should cost
7 = 5 attack - 1(HP<4) + 3 (both stats grow) + 1(effect with no cost) - 1[Fire Attack Bonus]

Blazing Swordsman should cost
7 = 6 attack + 3 (both stats grow) + 1(effect with no cost) - 1[Fire Attack Bonus] - 2[Upgraded]

See this link for more info
Mechanics of Card Cost - Creatures: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,10994.0.html (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,10994.0.html)

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Re: Flame Warrior | Blazing Swordsman https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12249.msg152870#msg152870
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2010, 11:46:40 pm »
I looked at the same post. I didn't take into account that both stats grow, but I subtracted because I can't physically make this card get stronger, I have to rely on my opponent, or make myself not attack by using sundials. I felt that was worth making it cheaper. Possibly 5/6 cost then, 7 seems way too high
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Re: Flame Warrior | Blazing Swordsman https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12249.msg152871#msg152871
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2010, 11:51:15 pm »
I really think this card is OP. By my calculations this card's cost is too low for what it does.
Here they are:

Flame Warrior should cost
7 = 5 attack - 1(HP<3) + 3 (both stats grow) + 1(effect with no cost) - 1[Fire Attack Bonus]

Blazing Swordsman should cost
7 = 6 attack + 3 (both stats grow) + 1(effect with no cost) - 1[Fire Attack Bonus] - 2[Upgraded]

See this link for more info
Mechanics of Card Cost - Creatures: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,10994.0.html (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,10994.0.html)
Except this doesn't apply because of situationality - if nothing stops it, it becomes a vanilla creature that fire doesn't need. Granted, I think its starting attack should be 3-4. Maybe even 2, so that it does something against Permafrost and Spine Carapace.

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Re: Flame Warrior | Blazing Swordsman https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12249.msg152882#msg152882
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2010, 12:17:52 am »
Sorry. I read for each successful attack. I really like the idea, but now I think this card wouldn't be used because of its great situationality. Hope is the only shield that stops Flame Warrior | Blazing Swordsman. And yes I would make it even a 1/3 by 1 :fire.

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Re: Flame Warrior | Blazing Swordsman https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12249.msg152897#msg152897
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2010, 12:48:39 am »
See, i'm trying to make a mid ranged attacker that doesnt cost a ton. And because of its situationality, it might not get used much, but I feel like it would be a good thing to bring to the t50 as ~30 of the decks in it have some sort of stall method.
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Re: Flame Warrior | Blazing Swordsman https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12249.msg152918#msg152918
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2010, 01:18:58 am »
~30 decks from which i think most uses healing stall most than attack stopping stall.
But looking to its bright you could put sundial in a fire deck with Flame Warrior | Blazing Swordsman and be useful :P.

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Re: Flame Warrior | Blazing Swordsman https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12249.msg152923#msg152923
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2010, 01:26:55 am »
Yeah lol, I realized that after I posted it too. Firestall with some added oomph :P
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Re: Flame Warrior | Blazing Swordsman https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12249.msg152925#msg152925
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2010, 01:29:42 am »
This is fire's way to fire back against water.  Perm freezes you, you unfreeze and get stronger.  Brilliant.

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Re: Flame Warrior | Blazing Swordsman https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12249.msg153083#msg153083
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2010, 06:14:46 am »
Fire needs a way to get back at water...although parka in a good setup would still waste it xD
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