Avalanche | Avalanche

[Daguerreo]

I think 2 dmg would be too much.

But X (middle row) is, at least for the purpose of flooding, the top row, so, moving creatures from the top A to X would save them.

If they're not water, they can't be in top A...

Why not?

If you play at same turn flooding and avalanche, yes, creatures from top row could be saved. But why not, seems a good balancing to prevent a mass kill

Moreover, I've added this:
- If a creature in the lower row is moved down, it is destroyed: There is 25% chance to destroy a creature in the middle row using 2 Avalanche,  and 50% using 3 of it.

Because I know that it work good with flooding, but without seems to have not to much sense instead, and price, % of success and card played I think is balanced.

Avalanche vs Fire Bolt with 2 card of both played:
Avalanche: 25% for every creature to be killed (from middle row).
Fire Bolt: 6 damag to every creature (and can kill more than half of creatures of element).

With 3 card played of both:
Avalanche: Percentage grow to 50%.
Fire Bolt: 9 damage to every creature (can kill almost all the creature of the game).

[zgatt]

I think with the added chance of mass killing every creature in the lower row even WITHOUT flooding, the cost of the card needs to increase to accommodate that. 25% chance to kill a bunch of your opponent's middle row creatures for a mere 6 or 4 quanta (2 casts) is REALLY cheap. On top of this, if you're using flooding, the chance goes up to 50% for killing non-water creatures outright (albeit at the cost of 1 per turn). I think the cost should be much higher, like 6 | 5 for Unupped | Upped.

[atomiton]

May make flood a lot more useful.

[Jenkar]

Yes, if it works without flooding possibly put the cost to 5/4

[TheManuz]

Maybe you can change the 50% probability of moving rows down to "increase creature position by 1" but 100% of the time.
I think that we should avoid randomness when we can!

This has some effects:
It moves all the creatures away from the center row by one slot.
The creature in position 23 is killed, but only if the player has a full field.
If you use 6 consecutive avalanches, and the field is full, only 1 creature will stay in the center row, and you will kill creature in position 23,22,21,20,19,18.

This method is also quite soft, so you can keep the actual spell cost (that would be low for the effect it has now).

[Daguerreo]

Maybe you can change the 50% probability of moving rows down to "increase creature position by 1" but 100% of the time.
I think that we should avoid randomness when we can!

This has some effects:
It moves all the creatures away from the center row by one slot.
The creature in position 23 is killed, but only if the player has a full field.
If you use 6 consecutive avalanches, and the field is full, only 1 creature will stay in the center row, and you will kill creature in position 23,22,21,20,19,18.

This method is also quite soft, so you can keep the actual spell cost (that would be low for the effect it has now).

Yeah but, so the card not have sense if there are up to 3-4 creatures, because need to much Avalanche to obtaine the desired effect, and it has sense only player with flooding in game :\

[TheManuz]

You're right on this point. Maybe you can move creatures regarding of their weight (HP), and creatures landing on occupied slots pushes the creature one slot beyond.
It's more chaotic, but more realistic (heavier things will roll more!). 

[Kuroaitou]

CURATOR COMMENT

Try to fix the ART section to be a -tad- bit more accurate (i.e. - use this link instead: http://www.thestoragealchemist.com/2010/12/ ) Other than that, it passes for the Crucible.

You could also change the text so that it reads, "Deals 1 damage to every non-water creature... etc." unless that takes up too much space. ^^; I find it intriguing that one can summon an avalanche in the middle of an ocean (if used with Flooding), but hey, Water elementals be crazy, yeah?

[Daguerreo]

CURATOR COMMENT

Try to fix the ART section to be a -tad- bit more accurate (i.e. - use this link instead: http://www.thestoragealchemist.com/2010/12/ ) Other than that, it passes for the Crucible.

You could also change the text so that it reads, "Deals 1 damage to every non-water creature... etc." unless that takes up too much space. ^^; I find it intriguing that one can summon an avalanche in the middle of an ocean (if used with Flooding), but hey, Water elementals be crazy, yeah?

Yeah... I've thinked the same
Name of the card could be change in something like Tidal Wave.. and change the effect to split creature from the middle row to laterals row
I'm waiting to your comment to change the card

[The_Mormegil]

Intresting idea to buff Flooding. Mass instant-kill mechanic might be a bit too powerful, though:

Freeze + Shockwave:
2 cards, 2 , 1 , kill target creature

Avalanche + Flooding:
2 cards, 6 + 1 upkeep, 50% chance to kill every enemy creature (if opponent has many creatures, just wait one turn then play this to kill what's left).

It's 2 more quanta + 1 upkeep to have a mass killing effect at 50% chance. If your opponent has 3 or more creatures, it's effectively much more powerful. I think a cost increase is in order - maybe make it cost 5 | 4. I'm pretty sure it will still be played in a water stall deck.

[Higurashi]

Reminds me of an old concept of a Gravity Bomb that moves a creature and its neighbours away from the middle row. This could be even more effective, and I like the area effect.
I think it would be more interesting in a different element though, to promote duos. Earth is the obvious choice, to strengthen the synergy via Trident.
Works thematically with the name and concept of Earth, and balances it a bit by moving the combo away from mono.

[Daguerreo]

Reminds me of an old concept of a Gravity Bomb that moves a creature and its neighbours away from the middle row. This could be even more effective, and I like the area effect.
I think it would be more interesting in a different element though, to promote duos. Earth is the obvious choice, to strengthen the synergy via Trident.
Works thematically with the name and concept of Earth, and balances it a bit by moving the combo away from mono.

I'm writing a cards serie for underwater and another to move creature in the field, I would like to create synergy with all the serie