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TIME - Eliminated https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46521.msg1038338#msg1038338
« on: February 04, 2013, 04:26:08 am »
ROUND 1

(Air Gen) kev 3 - (Time SB) Chapuz 0
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(Water L) Spielkind 3 - (sub) (Time SB) BunKeR 1

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(earth SB) dragtom 3 - (sub) (time L) McSod 0

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(Time Strategist) Cheesy111 3 - 2 (Fire Quartermaster) summerz88

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The UG deck has chapuz written all over it, dont know Oa that well but there is no way to convince me this is not chapuz creation. That reveals something about team chemistry, which seems to be much different from 10's reign. Probably they work now with a similar mode with our team (democracy) than the previous centralized system of decisions 10 liked. That makes them less predictable. Also I tested a bit their deck an it seems like noone had a thorough test with it. Definitely fire production(pends) does not allow for detonation by the time you deck out with this kind of drawing(most of the times at least). On another note it is a very one dimensional deck that probably counters/compeets with about half of our vault last war (in principle atleast), which means they had a good look at our secret sections and we must be careful using the stuff from last war. Can be salvaged easily and morfed if need in a nova UG deck like we had last war
Standard ghostal, I think silence is a new feature
Poison dials odd choice to up pills and not HG
Ghostmare a typical deck used by darkness, not the time ghostmare says something about Oa preferences. 3 RT no eternity is something to remeber.
Sanc stall 10 used to run it with pharaohs. Odd size at 34, a solo fate egg for what? This deck vs aether prooves to me time vault got no refl shields
Strat bow used sideboard for +- utility cards like 2purify,silence and 3RT. Not the best use of strat imo but seems a bow tailored for firestall in mind and expect it to change. This deck smell like cheesy built.
2 sundial decks lost, maybe not going to see more of those soon? ghostal, ghostmare, rump bow, sanc stall.

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Re: Time - Round #1 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46521.msg1038339#msg1038339
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2013, 04:27:46 am »
FWIW I think Chap designed the deck and Cheesy had a big hand in testing/modding it.  As Chap said in the battle thread, they expected a Bonair (right) based on critters (wrong).  Expecting it to contain critters is sort of insanely wrong, as I've used variants of this deck over a number of Wars and PvP Events and I've never included a single critter.  I can't imagine they'd think I'm not choosing my own decks so I have to conclude they only did their homework partway.   :-\

A lot can be learned in the language of our opponents.  Chap flat out said "we put you on this deck and used the best available counter."  That's different than "we put you on this range of decks", "our deck nullifies the two most powerful Air cards", and "we thought you'd build a counter to our Deck X."

During R1, several members of our team chose decks sorta using different quotes above.  If we can determine who is making the decisions and how he makes them, countering becomes a lot easier.

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Re: TIME https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46521.msg1039161#msg1039161
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2013, 05:50:51 am »
Round #2

UG dials 3-2 WIN vs :light
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Ghostmare 1-3 LOSS vs :earth
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RT Phoenix 2-3 LOSS vs :fire
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Re: Time - Round #2 - analysis needed https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46521.msg1039406#msg1039406
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2013, 09:00:08 pm »
End round 2 discussion

UG deck is flawed I mentioned it before and this round match vs firestall kinda prooves it. Won 3-2 vs a firestall with 0 defl. This deck is not as fast as they think cause of fire Q issues. Copy paste from round 1
Pury timebow copy pasted from round 1 without the strat sideboard. A very obvious pick after round 1 loss to bonair.
GnG with EQ seems more scary than the BB version, also I believe this has great stall beater potential (with lightstall in mind ofc testing pending). not used round 1
Ghostmare is copy pasta from round 1, shows that they prefer better the dusk dagger than eternity procrast.
Lightstall is the same deck as in round 1 but with holy lights in it. A good adition vs darkness or death but not for anyone else. That solo egg stares back at me weirdly, I wouldn't bee surprised to see the pharaoh sanc stall 10 used at some point of this war.
That fire duo seems to have the Q a bit off, too much time/too little fire. Might that mean they are in a vault strain for time creatures?

Very nice comeback this round from time, kept hidden the ghostal and posion dials ?. A very predictable deck assignment based on round 1 decks

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Re: TIME - Round #2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46521.msg1042877#msg1042877
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2013, 05:55:52 pm »
Gen 0 - 3 :aether
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Lt 3 - 0 :life
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SB 3 - 2 :gravity
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Ber 2 - 3 :fire
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Str 3 - 1 :air
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QM 0 - 3 :light
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End round 3 discussion
Not much to say, really.  Four decks have been used before; see commentaries by Jen and maul above.
They built the mono to combat an immorush, faced an immorush, and still lost.
The only decks they're really spending time and imagination on are the ones they pit against us.  :S
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Re: TIME - Round #3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46521.msg1045320#msg1045320
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{Earth Lt} Annele 3 - {Time SB} Cheesy111 2

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135 cards left and 60 known and GnG, parts of ug deck and sanc stall hidden.
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Round #5: 2 Wins / 2 Losses

3-0 Win vs. :earth
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1-3 Loss vs. :air
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Re: TIME - Round #5 (Awaiting Analysis) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46521.msg1047472#msg1047472
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2013, 08:02:20 pm »
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They got 93 cards left of those 60 are known. They hid the ghostal and they can salvage few fractals/lightnigs and poison/arse for a death duo.
They are stuggling badly for in-element hitters and Quanta producers and QM flag this round wont help them.
Fielding 2 decks next round, seem that they are in a nice spot

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Just noticed as I was looking - the last time Time ran Reverse Time was during round 4 - in 2 different decks which both lost - other than the lone Eternity in their Ghostal Deck they may not have any left.
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ROUND 6

(Time Lieutenant) Cheesy111 3 - 1 Drake_XIV (Water Strategist)

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Re: TIME - Round #7 (Analysis Needed) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46521.msg1051597#msg1051597
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2013, 12:02:05 am »
Round #7: 3 Wins / 0 Losses

3-0 Win vs :aether
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Re: TIME - Round #7 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46521.msg1052970#msg1052970
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2013, 07:07:46 pm »
I don't see Time as having a 4th deck in their vault.

They had 13 cards in their vault that weren't played last round.

As I see it their lone option is to salvage the cards to try and run a gimped copy of Ghostal as an alternate 3rd deck.
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