Penalties

[kev]

Team Air made two really significant errors so far this round.  The first is here (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,32954.0.html).  The deck code in the Google doc has Legit using a Bone Pillar that isn't in your vault.  Given that the doc tells you that you're using an illegal card and notes which one it is, I'm surprised this error was made.

The second is your player order.  This is especially confusing because TuckingFypo PM'd the WMs earlier this week for clarification, and I sent this reply:

It appears as though who is using which deck for the Deck Compliance system is still based on the order we sent to you for Round 2, and not the Member Roles.    We don't want to face the wrong team with the wrong deck.  Should we put in our decks based off of the order from Round 2, or was this something that was overlooked?

Thanks in advance!

The order in Compliance should never have been based on the R2 PM I was sent.  It should always be equal to the order found in Member Roles at the beginning of each round.  If that wasn't the case for some round please let me know ASAP.

I'm not sure what you mean by overlooked... Warmasters don't ever edit the order in the Member Roles thread or Compliance.  That's up to you guys.

Hope this helps!

If deck order in the Google doc doesn't match that in the Member Roles thread, a team could theoretically just build 8 decks and then assign them to whomever, whenever.  That obviously can't be allowed.  I had added the rule clarification to the War News thread (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,31675.msg441710#msg441710) as well.  Given the post and my PM to TuckingFypo, I'm surprised the error was still made.  I'm not charging a penalty for the first three rounds for this.  Please just make sure it's sorted out by next round.

While I'm on the topic, some of the deck codes are still getting entered into the Google doc weird.  Here's Deck #7 from last round:

"5la 5la 5lk 5lk 5lk 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5ok 5ok 5ok 5ok 5ok 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 61o 61o 61u 622 622 63a 63a 80i 80i 80i 8pu
"

I already commented on it here (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,32230.msg438737#msg438737).  It's not a penalizable offense but it's a nuisance for me.  Please just copy deck codes from the game's Import/Export box and paste them in the doc... like all the other teams.

[DrunkDestroyer]

I claim fault on the player order change in Round 3, it'll be back to the original next round.


I guess that really created the other issue, I was working with the round 2 template, where Legit should have played with deck 7 and plastiqe should have played with the illegal deck

The Bone pillar change is confusing, because I went through and checked the decks an hour or so before the round ended, and I am absolutely positive that there was no yellow warning or anything of the sort.

We've all been having issues with the vault reading the codes we put in (Me, Pervepic and TF have experienced this), we'll take a look at what we are doing wrong and how to fix it in the future. Sorry for the inconvenience.


air1 = BatCountry
air2 = Bloom
air3 = TuckingFypo
air4 = DrunkDestroyer
air5 = plastiqe
air6 = Pervepic
air7 = Legit
air8 = Robocracy

[kev]

Order we plan on using for the rest of the round if possible
air1 = BatCountry
air2 = Bloom
air3 = TuckingFypo
air4 = DrunkDestroyer
air5 = plastiqe
air6 = Pervepic
air7 = Legit
air8 = Robocracy

I think there's some teamwide confusion regarding player order, so let me try to help.

As I said in my PM to TuckingFypo, "The order in Compliance should never have been based on the R2 PM I was sent.  It should always be equal to the order found in Member Roles at the beginning of each round."  air1, air2, etc. was just a naming convention I created so it'd be easy for you to PM me who-was-who for the Round 2 Event Card.  If I hadn't written air1, you would've had to say "The air player who's fighting Team Death," which would have been a pain.  The PM you sent with air1, air2, etc. has nothing at all to do with player order.

Player order is set in the Member Roles thread and has been through every War.  From the Member Roles thread DD created:

The following post serves two purposes.1. It shows everyone their member role in the team.2. It shows the Warmasters the preferred order in which the team fights if they don't have enough cards for everyone to fight.Teams are allowed to change the order at any time by modifying this post.

So before deckbuilding starts in this coming round, please feel free to modify the order set in the Member Roles thread.  I'll take note of the change and I'll seed your team accordingly.

For this round, however, I've already assumed Legit's deck was Deck #5 in the Deck Compliance tab of Google docs because Legit was listed as fifth in the Member Order thread.  So your new order for this round should be:

Deck 1 = BatCountry
Deck 2 = Bloom
Deck 3 = TuckingFypo
Deck 4 = DrunkDestroyer
Deck 5 = Legit
Deck 6 = Pervepic
Deck 7 = plastiqe
Deck 8 = Robocracy

If you have any additional questions please feel free to ask.

[TuckingFypo]

As I said in my PM to TuckingFypo, "The order in Compliance should never have been based on the R2 PM I was sent.  It should always be equal to the order found in Member Roles at the beginning of each round."

air1 = BatCountry
air2 = Bloom
air3 = TuckingFypo
air4 = DrunkDestroyer
air5 = plastique
air6 = Pervepic
air7 = Legit
air8 = RobocracyThis is the order that Team Air PM'ed for Round 2.  I don't have proof in screenshots for it but I very clearly remember that when I put decks into the Vault, I put them in this order, and it fit with no errors. 

I remember clearly when I was adding in decks into the Vault for R3, I tried adding DD's deck into the Deck #1 slot and it said "This deck has too many upgrades" or something along that.  That's why I assumed that the order was still based off of Round 2, and sure enough DD's deck fit on the Deck #4 slot.

[kev]

FWIW on Oct 19, somewhere between 12:18am PT and 8:34am PT someone who wasn't logged in deleted some important formulas in Deck Compliance.  That's why the Bone Pillar didn't show as an error.  TF found the removed formulas and pointed them out to me.  They're back now so you should be good to go.  Please use caution in the Google doc.

Best of luck in the rest of the round.