Deck Selection and Vault Building

[Jen-i]

1. Bone Bolt

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From the success of this style of deck in past wars I think we have a successful formula here. I'd love to find some alternate builds for this deck to either make it more rushy or more stally, giving the strategist an ability to switch during their fights. I think kev's suggestion of Arsenic moves that direction, but loses a significant amount of control - perhaps the alternative is a mix of Owl's Eye's and Arsenic?

2. Hurricane

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This deck contains more control than Bone Bolt, and is generally faster, but in turn is more vulnerable itself. Again I'd like to find a version that allows the deck to switch to a more "Rush-centric" alternative, probably swapping squids and shields for more attackers. But testing would need to be done.

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-4 Squid, -2 Fog Shield, +2 Toadfish, +2 Freeze, +2 Wyrm

3. Bloom's Disco-Nova

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I think we need some form of denial deck - this deck feels solid, the supernova-nova split left me feeling a little worried, but having played it the mark makes up for that entirely. It is nearly impossible to build a novabow that can be used by the strategist effectively, that said there are alternative builds we should consider including the cards for in the vault. Mall's Poor Man's Bow is a great suggestion in my books, we could pack the cards for one in the vault, and the in-element cards for a second (salvage will bring us the cards for another). Some testing is needed to find an optimal build for this deck and 1-2 varients (at least that's my thoughts).

4. Burd's Ghostmare

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I looked at the deck and laughed, "Brilliant idea! But a total failure I thought". But I figured I at least had to test the deck before writing it off. Holy Crap Burd! You're a genius!!! Kev and I both tried to come up with a Ghostmare build and failed. Even though the deck is a trio, it seems very stable. Take the time to play test at least 10 games with this gem before stating your opinion, you might be as surprised as I was!

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Sorry nope - nothing here. Don't think is possible to tinker with this finely balanced machine

5. Fractal Dragons

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Seems a reasonably solid use of Fractal - in my testing I used the Dims in only 25% of games, but they turned those losses into wins. There`s probably room to change the Dim`s in the deck for a strategist version for either something more controlish, like lightning, or more Rushy (not sure what to use there yet). As it stands with Dims its a 10.7 ttw.

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An this nicely fits into a Strategist version of the deck as well!

6. Shadow Dragons

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Both versions need to be tested for optimal builds - its possible that 2 copies of Duck Mantle and Vamp Dagger is a better build, and quanta balancing may need to be looked at, but I agree with Mall, this is perhaps our most flexible duo.

7. Diss Stall

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I love kev's concept - and I love Mall's alterations (having an alternate victory condition is key). My testing hasn't gone especially well, I've run into EQ and Titan a few times, we may need to figure out how to include some form of healing in the deck. And I would love to see a means of card draw included as well. And squeezing one Flying Weapon into the deck may help get a little more damage on the table as well.

8. AdrenaFlies

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We need to have at least one Rush option in our arsenal - from all the decks I've tested this seems to be the quickest and most stable. If anyone has a better alternative I'd be happy to use it.

Other Decks

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Bolt Control Deck

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I haven't tested this enough to feel confident in backing this in war.

Dev's Are Awesome

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Eternity Stall

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Highly likely we salvage the Eternities from Ghostmare decks to be able to build this later in the war - on the other hand it really only costs us 4 cards to add it to the Initial Vault.

CataTitans
Probably should be included here but wasn't - now it is!

Other Things to Consider

• I've made little use of our "mid" hitters - this may impact our vault as the war wears on
• I dislike FFQ (okay I like the concept) but I agree with Mall's assessment from chat, the quanta needed to manage an FFQ deck is pretty prohibative, you need 6 as fast as possible, and then you need lots of , but your need for almost vanishes.
• We need to have play tested a deck that can beat Fire Stall - Xeno's tester says the Cloak version of Shadow Dragons will have a 95% winrate - but I'm positive that the ai fails when playing Fire Stall

This list of cards comes to 284 cards - 58.4% In Element and under all the other card limits. I do have a problem at being that dependant on Off-Element Cards - and that leaves us little flexibility in adding other utility cards or additional pillars and pends. Or in adding the 9th deck kev wants.

[Bloom]

I agree with all of your deck selections except author bias leads me to think my Bonebolt is better than the one you posted, and I also feel like we should incorporate a CataTitans (upon further review, the Flying Titans Burd posted in deck ideas is superior to mine):

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Edit: It also occured to me that every one of our decks are highly susceptible to EQ and once the competition gets wind of our weakness they'll be sure to pack them. Anyone see a way to stop an EQ deck with the decks we have?

[justaburd]

I will note beforehand that I didn't really consider my own decks quite as much. Something something lack of confidence something something blah

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Accelacatatitans

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UG grabbow

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Bone bolt

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fractal dragons (damsel version)

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sancstall

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bloom's denialbow

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nova UG stall

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some sort of cross between

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and

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winged spiders

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entropy stall

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It appears that my choices are all very nova heavy. And I would really like to see more immo and rt. That said, here's some decks that uses quanta from the other elements. I.e. not death, and no nova.

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life kev's rush

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fire birdies

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or

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darkness strat deck

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time? flying eternity dragon smash

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entropy the strat deck

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time/dark some sort of ghostmare?

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blessed pegasi

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[kev]

This list of cards comes to 284 cards - 58.4% In Element and under all the other card limits. I do have a problem at being that dependant on Off-Element Cards - and that leaves us little flexibility in adding other utility cards or additional pillars and pends. Or in adding the 9th deck kev wants.

I get 252 from your eight decks and I'm not sure what else you included to get to 284.  But upon further investigation, yes, I think we have room for the bones of a 9th, 10th, and 11th deck.  If eight decks brings us to ~252, we have ~45 cards leftover.  Most teams would take a 9th deck and jam in purifies and holy lights.  Or they fill the 45 with purifies, holy lights, and extra in-element cards so they can plug gaps in their eight decks when discarding begins.  BUT NOT US, MY FRIENDS!  Four reasons we should consider 11 decks:

1) We can.  24 conversion is a crazy generous gift from the WMs and not a lot of teams will make use of it.  Also, because we never discard full decks, we're able to save pills/pends from every deck we lose.  The absolute worst case pill/pend scenario would be going into a given round with 0 excess pillars/pends, losing all five matches in a late round, keeping 15, and converting 24.  The average deck in Jen's post uses 10.1 pills/pends, so even under that ridiculous scenario we'd still have four decks with appropriate quanta (and if we're doing that bad we're not building four decks anyway ).  There were zero suicides last War.

2) Optionality.  The problem with building eight and taking plug cards is we're sorta stuck with those eight unless we salvage some cards that we're able to use well.  Those eight decks are a lot easier for other teams to plan against.  And conversely we have fewer options each round.

3) More optionality.  We're more likely to salvage something useful if we have a more diverse starting vault.  Salvaging acceleration isn't even potentially useful unless we have gravy cards already in the vault.  So instead accel becomes converted and we carry on with our eight decks.

4) I'm confident in this team.  I don't foresee horrific losing streaks.  But even if I'm wrong, by that point having to field a suicide would be irrelevant.

[AnnaMall]

Break grabbow

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Typical bow with bypass dmg from UGs. Offers a decent win% (40-50) vs anything really.

Catatits

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One of the top tier pvp decks...modded for air, servered us well last war, then modded it a bit. Bypass, burst and CC resistant.

Dim pugons

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Skeleton of a deck that can transform to drag pu rush, dim stall with fractals, jen's fractal drags, dim pugons and as the epic creatureless dim/pu voted as  team's air coolest deck.

Bon(air)-wall

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Another top tier pvp deck that air can field legaly. Tstorm and SW can be switched to taste.

Sanc stall

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Jenkar believed it is the best air deck and with some carefull use it can be a killer...I ll take this deck in war just cause he said so, ohh and it beats DBH and ghostmares

Immorush

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Top tier deck again...loses 1 turn speed if damsels are unnupped but clocks at 8 ttw having 5 def/control cards. Not sure for drags/phoenix/golem split though, seraph is very tempting

Dark domin

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I believe each one of us built something like this...this is last wars version which I heavily tested round after round and I still dont see clearly why it wins so much. Gains incredibly from more upps.

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Still unfinished but I see potential

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Something similar was war4 best air deck, right bloom?

[kev]

I'm still in the process of narrowing this down. 

My top 11 12
BW duo
BW duo (again)
Adrenastaves
Flying Titans
Grabbow or disco EQ or Bloom's denial bow
Dim fractalgons or dim pugons
dark duo - flightmare?  saderless vaders?  shadow dragons?
Light stall
immo or adrenaflies or A fun one... and quick, but prolly immo
hurricane
burd's ghostmare
d/bh

ffq  Bleh.  It tests well, may make opponents consider facing hope, and it feels weird to not use the card at all, but it's prolly not good enough.
blessed peggies  PU wyrms is similar and better imo.
God I love RT  I really do.  Maybe we can salvage/fit a couple in the vault and make this from scratch later on.
Birdies.  Birds OP and another excuse to fire duo, giving access to deflag.  Shame we can't fit em.

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Boneair (twice):

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Adrenastaves:

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Flying Titans:

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Grabbow or disco EQ or Bloom's denial bow:

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Dim fractalgons or dim pugons:

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dark duo - flightmare?  saderless vaders?  shadow dragons?:
indifferent between the two
Light stall:

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immo or adrenaflies or A fun one... and quick, but prolly immo (plz note I'm not in love with this build; if anyone has a better one, have at it):

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hurricane:

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burd's ghostmare:

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The D/BH variant I like:

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[Jen-i]

kev - what you're asking for is not possible.

The tightest I can manage is as follows:

We need 76 quanta sources for the first round (this is what would be needed to run the 6 decks with the most number of in-element quanta sources). We can take 76 Pendulums with the intention of converting before Round #1 to get the few Pillars we'd need to make those decks.

Here are ten deck blocks - having removed their quanta cards (Note some decks are merged into one block as a means of saving us more vault space)

Bone Air #1 - 20 cards
Flying Titan & Adrenastaff Decks - 32 Cards
Nova Deck - 24 Cards (Whether grabbow or Bloom's Denial)
Dim Fractalagons - 18 Cards
Liquid Shadow Dragons - 16 Cards
Bone Air #2 & Light Stall - 38 Cards
Immo Rush - 24 Cards
Hurricane - 17 Cards
Ghostmare - 22 Cards
Discord - Black Hole - 23 Cards

That gives us 310 Cards - we might be able to squeeze a little more space if we put the Immo and Fractal Deck in the same block, there's 6 common cards between the deck (the dragonflies), so that would get us down to 304 - but its getting messy and tough to find much room after that.

More importantly I think seeking to maximize the number of decks denies us the ability to mod decks for the Strategist role - denies us the ability to carry a handful of key meta cards - denies us the ability to maximize any of our in-element card slots - I'm worried about our lack of in-element attackers, while I know many of them are sub-standard it can easily leave us in difficult deck building spots later in the war.

Of these concerns the one that worries me the most - we've said we believe that the Strategist role will be critical during this war - if we ignore it while deck & vault building - I think we'll discover once the event starts that we're unable to make solid use of it. I've posted 3 decks I think make use of this role effectively - I'll include them below in case anyone has missed them.

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[kev]

Awesome work on that, Jen.

I think you proved we can fit 11 decks in as you have 12 in the list above.  Any deck we axe gets us below 297 and if you put Immo and Fractal in the same block that'd help as well.  That gives us ~10 cards to wiggle, which is exactly what I hoped for when I posted my plan to build 11 decks.

But your notes about vaulting meta cards and strategist cards make a lot of sense, too.  I don't know whether we should axe another deck, bringing us down to 10 decks and our wiggle cards up to ~30.  Or maybe 11 decks and ~10 wigglers leaves us better off.  Ultimately the decision may be made by the decks we choose.  If we axe decks nova/immo decks we'll be in a different spot than if we axe stalls.  So let's do this: we need to settle on 10 decks plus one alternate deck ASAP.  It has to be ASAP cuz we need to allow time to decide which wiggle cards to take.

If you haven't already done so, please start picking your top 11.  I'm going to make a chart in a couple hours of who wants what and then we can all sit down and discuss.

It's crunch time, y'all!   8)

[kev]

Steps left in vaultbuilding:
- Select 10-11 decks as a group
- Firm up builds for those decks
- Decide on opportunistic / key meta / strategist role cards to be added
- Fill vault

So let's get to work on selecting the 10-11 decks!

	Annamall	Bloomrr	Elbirn	Jen-i	justaburd	kev	Total
Bone Air #1	X	X	X	X	X	X	6
Bone Air #2		X		X		X	3
Flying Titan	X	X	X	X		X	5
Adrenastaff Decks				X		X	2
Adrenaflies		X	X				2
grabbow	X	1/2 X	X		X	X	4.5
Bloom's Denial		1/2 X		X			1.5
Discord - Black Hole			X	X		X	3
Dim Fractalagons			X	X	X	X	4
dim PUgons	X	X					2
Shadow Dragons		X	X	X	X	X	5
Flightmare	X						1
Light Stall	X	X	X	X	X	X	6
Immo Rush	X		X			X	3
Hurricane		X	X	X	X	X	5
Ghostmare		X	X	X	X	X	5
Diss Stall	X	X					2
2 Nymphs	X						1

Edit: I moved half my X from Saderless Vaders to Shadow Dragons, eliminated the decks with 0 votes, and added a total column.

[justaburd]

boneair #1
grabbow
ghostmare
lightstall
jen's 3 strat decks

Those are the ones I think are most important or whatnot.

[Bloom]

Bone Air #1
Diss Stall
Hurricane
Shadow Dragons
Light Stall
Ghostmare
My denial bow/Grabbow I can't decide 1/2 and 1/2 please
Flying Titans (Cata/OD split)
Dim PUgons
Bone Air #2

Extra: Adrenaflies (w/ Rustler mechanism)

[kev]

Decisions:
Bonair: kev, Jen, Bloom, Maul all have versions.  Burd voted for kev's version.  Elbow's input requested.  If we take two versions we'll prolly do one kev, one OE-heavy.
Flying Titan: use kev's version -1 FW +1 Fog.  Try to wiggle 2 accels and 2 Wings as had burd's 2/2 split version.
grabbow: use last War's version
Shadow Dragons: somewhere in between kev's version and Jen's strategist version is good.
Light Stall: Work in progress