VAULT

[The Oracle]

Vault editing should be primarily done by the team Vault Organizer using the following link: https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AkPg5hwmtLisdFg2dXBJdzRNTmJLc3FsZmNtRDNOVFE&hl=en&authkey=CKKwv54K

Do not give this link to anyone outside your team!

When you edit the Vault, please post on this topic, explaining what edits you made. For example:

Round 1:
Salvage +24
Discard -18

You do not have to list specific cards. Changes might take up to 5 minutes to become visible.

[Toimu13]

Deck Card Tally (https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AqtHFcGj_0ODdGU4bUNLQWlrMy1kbnQ0T2ljTS1KYmc&hl=en&authkey=CJHc4psL)
Thanks Boingo!

Deck/Vault building rules:

Generals are given 500 blank cards. These cards will be used as currency when recruiting players during the next phase. Later they will be used to build the starting Vault for the team.

Vault building rules:
- at least 50% of cards have to be from your element
- maximum of 24 per card from your element (restriction doesn't apply to Pillars or Pendulums)
- maximum of 12 per card from other elements (restriction doesn't apply to Pillars or Pendulums)
- no Shards

Deckbuilding rules:
- Any mark
- At least 50% of your cards have to be from your element
- Regular players can use unupgraded cards only
- Generals can use up to 6 upgraded cards (unupgraded cards taken from the Vault are transformed into upgraded ones)
- Lieutenants can use up to 3 upgraded cards (unupgraded cards taken from the Vault are transformed into upgraded ones)
- You cannot change your deck until the round is over

As a new rule in War #2, teams now have the option to convert some of their cards. This means that they can replace any card in their Vault with a Pillar or a Pendulum of their element. Converting helps teams to avoid a situation where they would be otherwise forced to build "suicide" decks. Converting will be done by the Vault Organizer who posts on the Vault topic which cards are converted, and then editing the Vault. Teams can convert a maximum of 12 cards per round.

  4
  1
  2
  1 (Poison/Arsenic)
  0.5 (Enchant Art/Earth Quake)
  0
  3
  0
  1.5 (1 Frogtal/Heal) & (1 Fract Frog/Spider with Heal)
  1
  0
  1 (maybe 1.5)

mono(ish) decks

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61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61q 61q 61q 61t 61t 61t 61t 61u 620 620 620 620 620 620 622 622 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a

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61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61q 61q 61r 61s 61s 61s 61s 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61u 61v 61v 61v 61v 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a

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592 592 592 592 592 592 593 593 593 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61u 61v 61v 61v 61v 61v 61v
/ decks [PC/CC]

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5f3 5f3 5f3 5f3 5f6 5f6 5f6 5f6 5fc 61q 61q 61r 61r 61t 61t 61t 621 621 621 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a

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5f3 5f3 5f3 5f3 5f3 5f3 5f6 5f6 5f6 61o 61o 61o 61o 61q 61q 61q 61t 61t 621 621 621 621 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a

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5f6 5f6 5f6 5f6 5f6 5f6 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61u 61u 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a / decks [PC/CC/Quantum Denial/Heal]

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5ul 5um 5um 5um 5um 5up 5up 5up 5uq 5ut 5ut 5ut 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61t 61t 622 622 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a

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5um 5um 5um 5um 5up 5up 5uq 5uq 5ut 5ut 5ut 5ut 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61t 61t 622 622 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a

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5ul 5ul 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5up 5up 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61q 61q 61t 61t 61u 622 622 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a / decks [Rush/Creature Spam/Heal]

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5bu 5bu 5bu 5bu 5bu 5bu 5c2 5c2 5c2 5c2 61o 61o 61o 61q 61q 61u 61u 620 620 620 620 620 620 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a

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5bu 5bu 5bu 5bu 5bu 5bu 5c2 5c2 5c2 5c4 5c4 5c4 61q 61q 61u 620 620 620 620 620 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a
/ decks [CC/Heal/Stall]

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5ia 5ia 5ia 5ia 5ia 5ia 5if 5if 5if 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61q 61q 61q 61t 61t 61t 61v 61v 61v 621 621 621 / Rainbow deck

/ deck [Quantum Denial/Stall]

/ deck [Rainbow'ish/Anti-Heavy Hitter]

/ deck [Anti Shield]

/ deck [Poison combo with Stall/CC]

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52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52q 52q 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t / deck [Stall/CC]

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5oe 5oe 5oe 5oe 5oo 5oo 5oo 5oo 61o 61o 61r 61r 61r 61r 620 620 620 620 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a / deck [Stall/Heal/Heavy Hitter]

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5lf 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lh 5li 61o 61o 61o 61r 61r 61r 61r 620 620 620 620 620 620 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a / deck [Stall/Draw Denial]

[Boingo]

Anyone know of a deadline of when Vaults are locked?

5 days from now:
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14068.msg189491#msg189491  <--clock thingy

[Boingo]

Okay, I have an idea for our vault:

  Pillars 54
  Pendulums 54
Phase Dragons 54
Lightnings 54
Dim Shields 54
Lobo 9
Immortals 28
Enchant Art 54
Total 360

What do you all think?

If only it were that simple.....these card limitations are the only reason AETHER has even a chance of not winning.  Lightning FTW!

[Boingo]

No good on the rainbow deck idea--it has to be 50% :

Deckbuilding rules:
- Any mark
- At least 50% of your cards have to be from your element
- Regular players can use unupgraded cards only
- Generals can use up to 6 upgraded cards (unupgraded cards taken from the Vault are transformed into upgraded ones)
- Lieutenants can use up to 3 upgraded cards (unupgraded cards taken from the Vault are transformed into upgraded ones)
- You cannot change your deck until the round is over

EDIT:  Toimu set me up and then ninja'ed me--he's that fast.

[Dragoon1140]

imo, let's go 24 on the Immortals.  When push comes to shove, and we lose matches, we will need Aether creatures.

Also, 6 Mind Flayers would be nice.  When we go up against Gravity, they will likely expect Lobo for Lobo'ing, not a creature.  We throw in DS + PA, bam, win.

Also, 9 Horned Frogs would be nice.  That way, me AND icb can use the Frogtal, since I can use three upgraded cards as well.

[Gocubbies1212]

Vault building rules:
- at least 50% of cards have to be from your element
- maximum of 24 per card from your element (restriction doesn't apply to Pillars or Pendulums)
- maximum of 12 per card from other elements (restriction doesn't apply to Pillars or Pendulums)
- no Shards

Deckbuilding rules:
- Any mark
- At least 50% of your cards have to be from your element
- Regular players can use unupgraded cards only
- Generals can use up to 6 upgraded cards (unupgraded cards taken from the Vault are transformed into upgraded ones)
- Lieutenants can use up to 3 upgraded cards (unupgraded cards taken from the Vault are transformed into upgraded ones)
- You cannot change your deck until the round is over

As a new rule in War #2, teams now have the option to convert some of their cards. This means that they can replace any card in their Vault with a Pillar or a Pendulum of their element. Converting helps teams to avoid a situation where they would be otherwise forced to build "suicide" decks. Converting will be done by the Vault Organizer who posts on the Vault topic which cards are converted, and then editing the Vault. Teams can convert a maximum of 12 cards per round.

360 cards is at most 12 decks for 9 people to use.  So here is an idea I just got, we take a few mono decks and a few duo decks.  This will limit us in deck ideas, but it might make it easier in later rounds to build better decks.

3 mono decks = ~90 cards.

1 / Rainbow deck = ~15 & ~15 other cards.

2 / decks = ~30 cards & ~30 cards.  [PC/CC]

2 / decks = ~30 cards & ~30 cards. [PC/CC/Quantum Denial/Heal]

2 / decks = ~30 cards & ~30 cards. [Rush/Creature Spam/Heal]

2 / decks = ~30 cards & ~30 cards. [Stall/CC]

Total = 225 cards.

i like this idea.

[Boingo]

I have serious concerns about a couple of decks:

Definite yes:
Uber MF--heal vs stall (I get the feeling bigger is better--but whatever wins is best!)
  stall--with dragons

Would not keep:  I have <50% rate of beating AI3 with these.  They may be better in PvP, but don't know for sure.
  Nova/immortal deck
  Fractal chargers (especially pendulum based--can fractal but can never play more than 1-2 chargers/turn until too late)

Need tweak:
  Fractal scarab (without novas) suffers CC without mark, though may be slightly faster with
  vulture/spark: consider adding 2 PU to capitalize on huge vultures--that way you rely less on mark to get creatures out and can get walls up.  Even without this, this is a very nice deck--will defeat steal/deflagration strategy

Undecided:
Voodoo/PU -- would only work against non-momentum creatures.  Worried that anti- decks will be momentum-based.  Could possibly add MF, or mutate, but doubt this will help much.  Probably good against      given the right matchup.

[Dragoon1140]

Imo, take out all of the Adrenaline and use those cards for Aether Pillars.

[Dragoon1140]

We don't need 12 Purify, of all things.

-6 Purify
+6 Holy Flash

... at least in my opinion.

[Dragoon1140]

Let's find a way to have at least 9 PA's.  They are the backbone of the PA + DS combo.

[Boingo]

Were we assessed a penalty?  If so, how many cards and when do we have to remove them?   I don't want to get ANOTHER penalty for not taking care of the first one...