Lava | Magma

[Xenocidius]

NAME: Lava ELEMENT: Fire COST: 2 TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: TEXT: : Plate Armor The target creature gains +0/+3	NAME: Magma ELEMENT: Fire COST: 3 TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: TEXT: : Heavy Armor The target creature gains +0/+6

ART: miniwally (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,15204.msg225238#msg225238) (I think) IDEA: Xenocidius NOTES: The idea of this is that mixing water with lava makes rock (), which you use to protect a creature. It helps combat the low HP of fire creatures, while also giving Fire a normal permanent. SERIES:

[Frostguard]

To tell you, I love the idea. However, I think it's overpowered. I run a rainbow deck with Elite Otyughs... That'd be pure unstoppableness.

[furballdn]

Maybe make it only usable on fire creatures? I'm pretty sure a forest spirit wouldn't be very happy wearing armor made of just molten lava.

[Xenocidius]

The armor is made of rock (it's cooled down first).

Besides, that would require an ability change; Plate Armor | Heavy Armor can be cast on all creatures.

[furballdn]

I like this card, it gets near perfect synergy with fire. Or can even be put in a water or rainbow deck. Rage potion and acceleration would also love this card so much. Repeatable healing without a guardian angel.

[Jocko]

Well, maybe it could prevent the creature from attacking that turn?

[Xenocidius]

Maybe. Still, Fire has enough control; this is meant to be used with Rage Potion and as reinforcement.

[Rutarete]

Reminds me of http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,29660.0.html , though they're very different.

[Ekki]

Maybe. Still, Fire has enough control; this is meant to be used with Rage Potion and as reinforcement.

There's the problem. There is too big of a difference between upped and unupped. While the upped one allows a Rage Potion each turn, the unupped one is too slow...
As far as I see it, this problem actually comes along with Plate Armor being UP compared to Heavy Armor (which looks balanced), but that's for another topic. Right now my concern is that big difference between upped and unupped, and IDK how to solve it (other than cost changes)

[Xenocidius]

The way to solve that is by buffing Plate Armor; otherwise this card's ability would have to be something other than Plate Armor, which makes the coding involved unnecessarily complex.

[Ekki]

The way to solve that is by buffing Plate Armor; otherwise this card's ability would have to be something other than Plate Armor, which makes the coding involved unnecessarily complex.

Huh, right, that was what I thought , what about increasing the ability cost of the upped one to  ?? Or maybe just the casting cost to 5 or 6

[Xenocidius]

Yes, I think I'll decrease the casting costs of both, in fact; unupped to 2, upped to 3.

Edit: Done.