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Labyrinth | Labyrinth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42190.msg524604#msg524604
« on: July 23, 2012, 04:46:22 pm »
NAME:
Labyrinth
ELEMENT:
Time
COST:
5 :time
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Your opponent's creatures are delayed for a while when they enter play.
NAME:
Labyrinth
ELEMENT:
Time
COST:
4 :time
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Your opponent's creatures are delayed for a while when they enter play.

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NOTES:
Ugh, the post maker seems to be missing from the image maker...

Labyrinth only affects your opponent's creatures.
Labyrinth does not affect creatures generated by an effect like Mitosis or Scarab.

Creatures are delayed based on their size [maximum health].  I've decided to humour OldTree's suggestion as it does seem more viable as there are different spaces in the niche...

HealthDelay
1~31 Turn
4~72 Turn
8~123 Turn
13~204 Turns
21~305 Turns
31~406 Turns

For every turn past 20, every 10 Max Health on a creature raises the Delay by one turn.  Although this only affects a few Gravity creatures.  Particularly Chimera.

Labyrinths do not stack.
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« Last Edit: July 24, 2012, 02:44:32 pm by Drake_XIV »

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Re: Labyrinth | Labytinth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42190.msg524660#msg524660
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2012, 07:26:29 pm »
Most creatures have less than 5 hp, so they get delayed 1 turn. This card really reminds me of one of OT's time c ards that stopped newly summoned creatures from attacking.

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Re: Labyrinth | Labytinth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42190.msg524677#msg524677
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2012, 08:21:12 pm »
Hm, yeah.  I was just using 5 as a baseline.  What if it was 3 HP per turn?

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Re: Labyrinth | Labytinth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42190.msg524693#msg524693
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2012, 08:50:29 pm »
Can I get your thoughts on the following ideas, preferably in their respective threads?
Labyrinth | Labyrinth
Labyrinth | Labyrinth
I would use a non linear scale to match the non linear hp progression.
Ideally something like 1-3, 4-9, 10+
Might deserve a cost reduction to 5|4.
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Re: Labyrinth | Labytinth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42190.msg524732#msg524732
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2012, 10:10:42 pm »
Decided to update it slightly as per OldTrees' suggestions.

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Re: Labyrinth | Labytinth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42190.msg524997#msg524997
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2012, 02:05:24 pm »
I love this card. It perfectly fits time, slowing down the opponent's play.

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Re: Labyrinth | Labytinth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42190.msg524998#msg524998
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2012, 02:22:23 pm »
I really like the idea, but it seems way powerful.  I think the cost ought to be upped to 10 or so for a card this powerful.  Either that, or maybe have the card affect your creatures as well.  Then the upgraded version would affect only enemy creatures for a cost of 7. 

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Re: Labyrinth | Labyrinth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42190.msg525000#msg525000
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2012, 02:24:33 pm »
For the love of God please fix the title of this thread.

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Re: Labyrinth | Labytinth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42190.msg525002#msg525002
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2012, 02:33:32 pm »
Well, it only delays one to two turns.  And most of the bulky creatures, particularly dragons, get the cut from airborne so they are delayed only 1~2 turns themselves.

Compare this to Procrastination, which is a constant supply of Delay as opposed to the one-time Delay of Labyrinth.

For the love of God please fix the title of this thread.

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Re: Labyrinth | Labytinth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42190.msg525005#msg525005
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2012, 02:42:24 pm »
^
You wrote "Labyrinth | Labytinth".

Also, nice card. It almost feels like heavier creatures are distorting the flow of time itself.
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Re: Labyrinth | Labyrinth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42190.msg525006#msg525006
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2012, 02:46:25 pm »
Ah.  Thanks to Kevkev and Absol for pointing that out...

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Re: Labyrinth | Labyrinth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42190.msg525012#msg525012
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2012, 03:15:00 pm »
But see if you use this card with reverse time/ eternity you could basically wipe the board.  If I play a massive dragon with 30 hp, you would just wait 5 turns then reverse it.  Even sapphire chargers, normally immune to the procrastination shield, would be affected.  In addition, it's a permanent, so there's really nothing stopping you from throwing 6 of them on the field.  Even decks with good permanent control would have issues.  If you made it more expensive it would reduce spamming, or perhaps make it a shield so that only one can be out at a time. 

 

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