Battering Ram | Battering Ram

[Treldon]

NAME: Battering Ram ELEMENT: Earth COST: 5 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 2 | 6 TEXT: Siege: while in play, Battering Ram will destroy any (material) shield when it attacks	NAME: Battering Ram ELEMENT: Earth COST: 4 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 2 | 7 TEXT: Siege: while in play, Battering Ram will destroy any (material) shield when it attacks

Spoiler for Original version (permanent):

NAME: Battering Ram ELEMENT: Earth COST: 5 TYPE: Permanent TEXT: Your opponent cannot use shields while Battering Ram is on the field	NAME: Battering Ram ELEMENT: Earth COST: 4 TYPE: Permanent TEXT: Your opponent cannot use shields while Battering Ram is on the field

ART: Treldon - source IDEA: Treldon NOTES: All material shields are destroyed when BR hits them. Of course if it gets Momentum or Quint+SoW it will not destroy shield. Skill is lobotomizable. SERIES: Skyrim Hold symbols

[Submachine]

I'd like this card more as a creature. It would give it a bit more usefulness.

[Treldon]

Should it be a creature I think it'd be a low ATK-high HP one, since battering rams don't do much besides breaking down gates

As an alternative version I was thinking that instead of just blocking the shield slot it could auto destroy all newly used shields, but that's probably too strong (and mean)

[Submachine]

it could auto destroy all newly used shields, but that's probably too strong (and mean)

No, I think that would be okay.

[Basman-1453]

Since Trel have already said that rams has no much use other than breaking walls, I'd suggest that a creature version of it might be able to smash even immaterial shields, but if it is, it must be at least a moderate-cost, low-HP low-attack creature (think unupped Maxwell's or Purple Nymphs).

[AD TienzuStorm]

As is, seems situational, since its cost is somewhat high for an early game card (you'd want this card out before they could even play any shields), which means it might end up being a dead card since it can't deal with the shield they have at the moment.

So yeah, making it a creature that continually removes shields would be nice.

Also, perhaps it could that it automatically destroys the shield upon play, then has an ability like " : Destroy opponent's shield", since I suppose a Pulvy (albeit restricted) with no ability cost would be rather powerful (especially since it's not even a weapon and doesn't require a duo).

[Treldon]

While it's indeed not a weapon, since it can only destroy shields it's not really comparable to Pulvy.
So while making it a creature seems quite likely, an activated skill is not something I'd prefer.

As for destroying immaterial shields...that's an interesting problem. If we imagine it as braking down the shield once it appears, then immaterial should be safe. But if we imagine it disrupting the casting process (quanta is consumed, summoning is in progress, bamm...card gone) then it could break those too...

[OdinVanguard]

While it's indeed not a weapon, since it can only destroy shields it's not really comparable to Pulvy.
So while making it a creature seems quite likely, an activated skill is not something I'd prefer.

As for destroying immaterial shields...that's an interesting problem. If we imagine it as braking down the shield once it appears, then immaterial should be safe. But if we imagine it disrupting the casting process (quanta is consumed, summoning is in progress, bamm...card gone) then it could break those too...

I don't like having this influence immaterial shields myself, but mostly for thematic reasons (e.g. how does a 'material' battering ram help against an immaterial shield?)

I think it might be a bit too strong as a permanent (at least as it is now) so I do favor it being a creature. The reason for that being that it is in the same element as PA.

If kept as a permanent, I think it should have a limited lifespan... like 3 turns or something like that (which would make a nice antithesis to phase shield)

[Treldon]

How about this?

[ZephyrPhantom]

+1 for making it a creature, since that makes it harder to establish a no-shield lock ( + instead of just ).

[Submachine]

I kept imagining it a 2|6 creature, because it hits low on its on, but it's bulky, has many HP.

[Treldon]

Bump: it's a creature now. Thoughts?