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Cerberus | Cerberus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9445.msg111440#msg111440
« on: July 10, 2010, 01:56:06 am »
NAME:
Cerberus
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
10 :darkness
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
6|7
ABILITY:
Trinity: Sacrifice this card to generate 3 demon dogs
NAME:
Cerberus
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
9 :darkness
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
6|7
ABILITY:
Trinity: Sacrifice this card to generate 3 Elite demon dogs
ART:
http://ulquipervertpedia.wikispaces.com/Integrantes+de+mi+Canal
IDEA:
Nico5k
NOTES:
none
SERIES:
none for the moment
NAME:
Demon Dog
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
5 :entropy
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2|5
ABILITY:
Last Day: Demon Dog triples its attack and dies at the end of the turn
NAME:
Elite Demon Dog
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
7 :entropy
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3|5
ABILITY:
Last Day: Elite Demon Dog triples its attack and dies at the end of the turn
ART:
http://www.kongregate.com/forums/2/topics/57036
IDEA:
Nico5k
NOTES:
Demon Dog and Elite Demon Dog only can be obtained by: hatch, cerberus, and twin universe effect
SERIES:
none at the moment
Before you start asking, i will explain the reason why i found those in my HD, i have a friend with a some kind of rare love for pics of demons and beasts, and he requested those images like a year ago, for his book (yes, he write books, but just for hobby, not for profession XD) and today, when i was really bored, i started to investigate what i have in the 132GB used on the C disc, and found this, and at the moment i saw those pics, they inspired me to create these cards :D, hope you like them

Edit: Gramatical errors of cards and text fixed, and font cited

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Re: Cerberus | Cerberus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9445.msg111881#msg111881
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2010, 08:15:37 pm »
Interesting concept and mechanic.

Is there a specific reason why Cerberus and the demon hounds are different elements?

Oh- and welcome to the forum :)

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Re: Cerberus | Cerberus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9445.msg111905#msg111905
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2010, 08:43:25 pm »
What a surprise to see you here nico!
I like the way your cards work, it's the first time a card spawns creatures from another element  by sacrificing itself. Very nice.

But although i like the card art (cerberus in particular seems to fit the game aesthetics perfectly) Zanz can't use it if the original artist is not aware of it, so he needs to know where it came from. Otherwise it'd be some kind of art theft. Try to get the site, or at least the links, it'd help a lot.

About the cards itself, hm, they seem balanced, and the sacrifice>spawn mechanic is unique and fun... maybe the stats-cost relation could be improved a bit.
Oh, and the spelling XD.
Glad to have you here, bro :)

Is there a specific reason why Cerberus and the demon hounds are different elements?
I THINK he tried to reinforce the already existent  :entropy:darkness synergy, but I won't speak for him :P
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Re: Cerberus | Cerberus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9445.msg111936#msg111936
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2010, 09:34:06 pm »
A few spelling errors that you should probably fix if you want it to get into the Crucible.

"Trinity: Sacrify this cart to generate 3 demon dogs"

Should be:

"Trinity: Sacrifice this card to generate 3 Demon Dogs"


"Last Day: if you use this ability demon dog triplicate his atack and die at the end of the turn"

Should be (also for conciseness):

"Last Day: Demon Dog triples its attack and dies at the end of the turn"


Aside from the spelling issues above, the card is a swell (but slightly overused) idea in terms of having creature split off/generated from another one. However, because it's an activated ability, the fact that it can be lobotomized or killed before you get the chance to split it makes it somewhat more interesting, especially since Cerberus can benefit from Eclipse.

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Re: Cerberus | Cerberus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9445.msg115210#msg115210
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2010, 07:35:50 pm »
thanks to all for the welcome

Interesting concept and mechanic.

Is there a specific reason why Cerberus and the demon hounds are different elements?

Oh- and welcome to the forum :)
well, i did they from differents elements because if demon dogs be of darkness to affected by eclypse plus her ability will be a bit OP (or at least i think that), other reason is if the two cards will be of darkness, monodarkness decks will see a bit OP too, and the last reason is for the art, the demon dogs seems (for me) more like a some kind of mutated dog :P

P.D: post edited with fix on the cards and text grammatical, and links to the art added

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Re: Cerberus | Cerberus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9445.msg118660#msg118660
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2010, 12:29:24 am »
Just a quick question on the Ability of Demon Dog. Is it active or passive. The way it looks is as a passive ability therefore I would class it as leaning towards the top end of the scale. If it is active then what is the cost of activating it if any.

I like the way it uses different Elements and I think you have a great idea.

Thanks

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Re: Cerberus | Cerberus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9445.msg118663#msg118663
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2010, 12:37:48 am »
I like the idea but I really do think they should be the same element I can deal with trio rainbow and mono decks but duo decks hate me they never work

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Re: Cerberus | Cerberus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9445.msg118667#msg118667
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2010, 12:41:31 am »
The advantage to this is it is not a true Duo, as you only need :darkness to play the Cerberus out.

Still I see your point as without :entropy these reversed would be an issue.

(Imagining a counter to these already..)

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Re: Cerberus | Cerberus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9445.msg118668#msg118668
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2010, 12:43:43 am »
Actually now that I think about it you would never need entropy sacrifice the Cerberus and tah-dah they're there where does need for entropy come into play (Don't say rewind)

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Re: Cerberus | Cerberus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9445.msg118670#msg118670
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2010, 12:47:51 am »
Lol I had already said it.....

But yes this is a great card in a Mono :darkness as it allows the playing of one creature that if it gets close to dying you can spam it out.

One idea for healing would be to play one of these, Liquid Shadow it (You would then get 36 points of Helaing over 6 turns) on it's last turn scarifice it then you get 3 new creatures.

Just as a side note:

Momentum and Adrenaline both pass over to new summoned creatures. Would these pass over in this as well?

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Re: Cerberus | Cerberus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9445.msg118671#msg118671
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2010, 12:49:06 am »
Oh so sorry I misunderstood what you were saying I feel sad now

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Re: Cerberus | Cerberus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9445.msg119192#msg119192
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2010, 06:15:50 pm »
Just a quick question on the Ability of Demon Dog. Is it active or passive. The way it looks is as a passive ability therefore I would class it as leaning towards the top end of the scale. If it is active then what is the cost of activating it if any.

I like the way it uses different Elements and I think you have a great idea.

Thanks

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its an active ability with no acvitating cost, because when you use the ability then demon dog die in that turn

Just as a side note:

Momentum and Adrenaline both pass over to new summoned creatures. Would these pass over in this as well?
not, they not, because just imagine, you sacrifice cerberus whit adrenaline and momentum and if it passes to the demon dogs you will have a 3 creatures of 3 damage whit adrenaline doing 2 or 3 attacks per turn ignoring your shields, it will see a bit OP in that case :/ , at least i think that

 

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