Bees nest | Killerbees nest

[Schattenfresser]

Hi,
the idea of the card is to give life a mono-element card with the ability to spawn creatures. The self-sacrificing ability of the bees allow to control the number of spawned creatures and gives life a creature controll card.

NAME: Bees nest ELEMENT: Life COST: 6 TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: - | - ABILITY: Generate 2 Bees at the end of every turn. Absorb  per turn. ART BY: Mark's Bee Haven IDEA BY: Schattenfresser	NAME: Killerbees nest ELEMENT: Life COST: 6 TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: - | - ABILITY: Generate 2 Killerbees at the end of every turn. Absorb  per turn. ART BY: Mark's Bee Haven IDEA BY: Schattenfresser

NOTES: [/color][/b] * generated creatures start to attack in the next turn * Higher playcost because because of the ability of the Bees? * the art should be a nest from feral bees

SERIES: [/color][/b] It could be a serie with Flooding.

NAME: Bee ELEMENT: Life COST: 2 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 1 | 1 ABILITY: Sting: Remove Bee from the play. Add 1 poison damage to the target. Poison damage is cumulative. ART BY: Paston Mobley IDEA BY: Schattenfresser	NAME: Killerbee ELEMENT: Life COST: 2 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 2 | 1 ABILITY: Sting: Remove Killerbee from the play. Add 1 poison damage to the target. Poison damage is cumulative. ART BY: Paston Mobley IDEA BY: Schattenfresser

NOTES: [/color][/b] * Bees and Killerbees don't create sceletons * the target can be creatures or the players * Should it be reflexible by shields?

CARD CHANGES: [/color][/b] * increasing the cost from Bees nest and Killerbees nest about 2 * changing the description of the sacrifice so that it don't work with Bone Wall or Vultures

[killsdazombies]

cool i like this, a good FFQ substitute.

[Belthazar666]

I like it. Although, since it's 2 bees, I'd raise the cost up by one or two. Maybe the upkeep by one instead, 2 for each bee per turn; you're essentially just playing 2 bees, yes, but it does keep adding them as long as the card is out.

[Schattenfresser]

I like it. Although, since it's 2 bees, I'd raise the cost up by one or two. Maybe the upkeep by one instead, 2 for each bee per turn; you're essentially just playing 2 bees, yes, but it does keep adding them as long as the card is out.

You have to pay 1 2 for a firefly, which costs 3 . I think it's a important aspect of creature-spawning cards that it's cheaper as playing the card.
The only thing I would increase would be the cost to bring the card in the play.

edit: yeah, it costs 2, I mixed it with Improve.  ???

[Thalas]

You generate firefly for 2  .

[borbland]

Good Idea:!

But poison is for death, not for life!

[ManOfManySpoons]

Good Idea:!

But poison is for death, not for life!

Spine Carpace? Seems like a life card with poison to me.  Not to mention residual poison effects of Bee Stings is reasonable to expect. 

I like the card idea, although it would create an unreal synergy with Bone Wall.  Running these to kill your opponent's creatures while sacrificing themselves would give you so many bone walls.  Add a Fallen Druid and entropy mark and you can turn the ones you don't need to poison into awesome mutants. 

Supernovas afford the chance to use their abilities too, although with them the deck is bordering on too bulky. 

[borbland]

Yes, but too much poison for life wouldn't be very good.They could be two element for poison, but life and death are two opposite

[Schattenfresser]

But poison is for death, not for life!

Yes, but too much poison for life wouldn't be very good.They could be two element for poison, but life and death are two opposite

You're right that the most of the cards and abilities with poison effect cost death. But there are two cards without death: Carapace and Puffer Fish, so poison isn't death only.
I want to keep death out of the idea because the cards have a strong synergy with death (Bonewall and Vulture) right now and I want to have a flexible card.

I like the card idea, although it would create an unreal synergy with Bone Wall.  Running these to kill your opponent's creatures while sacrificing themselves would give you so many bone walls.  Add a Fallen Druid and entropy mark and you can turn the ones you don't need to poison into awesome mutants. 

That is the biggest problem I have with the idea, it works to well with death.
A way to change that could be that sacrificing the Bees don't affect the Bonewall but I don't know if it would be possible. Maybe the sacrifice could work like rewind but it doesn't put the Bee back in the deck.
I could also modify the ability of the Bees so that it can't use the ability so fast or that it work in a different way. ( Like you have to sacrifice N Bees to kill a creature with N HP. But that shouldn't be possible with the code.)

[Kurohami]

I absolutely love this idea. It's about time life gets something a bit more powerful. Spine carapace came somewhat close to empowering life but not exactly there. This card would be really cool. I think the playing cost should be raised to much higher like 7 or so and the bee generation should become player activated instead of automatic, continuous upkeep can be disastrous for the aggressive style of life.

[Schattenfresser]

I have changed the cards a little bit.
I increased the cost of the nests about 2 so that it's more difficult to play the card in the early and the late game phase. When it isn't enough I could increase again about 1 or 2.

The change of the description removes the death aspect. The Bees don't die in the traditional way after using the ability. That should kill the strong synergy between the idea and death.

the bee generation should become player activated instead of automatic, continuous upkeep can be disastrous for the aggressive style of life.

You can control the production with the sacrifice ability and the "endless" spawning is a important aspect of the card. It's great when you have only a few creatures but it's uselessly using your quanta when your field is full.

[Schattenfresser]

Has nobody something to say about the card changes?
Don't fear! The bees don't attack you right now.