Small Moon | Great Luna

[Kael Hate]

Small Moon | Great Luna
(Quantum Mechanics)

NAME: Small Moon ELEMENT: Gravity COST: 2 TYPE: Permanent (Artifact) ATK|HP: - ABILITY: Each turn may produce Each turn the moon changes phases affecting tides and your	NAME: Great Luna ELEMENT: Gravity COST: 2 TYPE: Permanent (Artifact) ATK|HP: - ABILITY: Each turn produces and may produce Each turn Luna changes phase affecting your

ART: Kael Hate IDEA: Kael Hate NOTES: Flavour - The elemental has used energy aligned with gravity to pull a Satellite into orbit. The energy of the moon passing through orbit act as a flux for quanta. - Clusters - Each turn the Moon has a chance to produce.   - Moon - 50% 50% 50%   - Luna - 100% 50% 50% - Each turn the moon changes phase (Ability). It starts as Full moon. Playing a 2nd moon adds to the stack with the same skill. - When the Skill switches the following happens   - Moon (# = number of moons) Phase Water Full Moon * (1+(#*0.15) Waxing Moon / (1+(#*0.15) New Moon * (1+(#*0.15) Waning Moon / (1+(#*0.15)   - Luna (# = number of luna) Phase Water Light Darkness Entropy Full Moon * (1+(#*0.3) * (1+(#*0.15) / (1+(#*0.15) +D3 Waxing Moon / (1+(#*0.3) +D3-2 New Moon * (1+(#*0.3) / (1+(#*0.15) * (1+(#*0.15) -D3 Waning Moon / (1+(#*0.3) +D3-2 SERIES: QUANTUM MECHANICS - A Series of Card Ideas for Quanta Production  (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,5981.msg67663#msg67663)

[Lanidrak]

Your ideas are far too complicated for me to understand. I'll try at a later date. But I prefer simplicity over clever mathematical jargon. :p

[Kael Hate]

Your ideas are far too complicated for me to understand. I'll try at a later date. But I prefer simplicity over clever mathematical jargon. :p

Lay version for 1 moon -

When the Moon is:

Full - Doubles Wate, Gains Entropy, Doubles Light, Halves Darkness

Waxing - Halves Water, Gain Little Entropy

New - Doubles Water, Loses Entropy, Halves Light, Doubles Darkness

Waning - Halves Water, Gain Little Entropy


When there is a greater Moon effect in play then the effect is increase from Double to Triple and so on.

[Kamietsu]

Very complex idea, thus, making it rather poor. Very very few people would ever use this card simply because it's way too confusing. You should work on keeping things simple.

[Kael Hate]

Very complex idea, thus, making it rather poor. Very very few people would ever use this card simply because it's way too confusing. You should work on keeping things simple.

So Tell me, what is the formula for calculating attacks on Adrenaline is? You don't know but it still gets used.
How about your computer, or even your car, bet you don't know how it works on the inside but you still use them.

Often you don't want to know how it does it, just the best way of using it. This card is great for that, on the low tide, add as much water quanta as you can so it gets doubled next turn. On the turn its doubled, cast your icebolt and water spells so the smaller amount is halved.

[Kamietsu]

Very complex idea, thus, making it rather poor. Very very few people would ever use this card simply because it's way too confusing. You should work on keeping things simple.

So Tell me, what is the formula for calculating attacks on Adrenaline is? You don't know but it still gets used.
How about your computer, or even your car, bet you don't know how it works on the inside but you still use them.

Often you don't want to know how it does it, just the best way of using it. This card is great for that, on the low tide, add as much water quanta as you can so it gets doubled next turn. On the turn its doubled, cast your icebolt and water spells so the smaller amount is halved.

Adrenaline is much easier to understand than this is. But i agree, people are more hesitant to use adrenaline because of it's semi-complex ability, at least those newcomers who don't fully understand. But at least it does what it says for the most part, gives the creature more attacks a turn.

I can understand the first part of this effect, gives those three quanta. But the "May affect" those other quanta is too vague. and your description of the ability doesn't help understanding it much at all, at least until you described it betters. Adrenaline at least has an easy to understand description of it's ability on the wiki.

[Lanidrak]

Very complex idea, thus, making it rather poor. Very very few people would ever use this card simply because it's way too confusing. You should work on keeping things simple.

So Tell me, what is the formula for calculating attacks on Adrenaline is? You don't know but it still gets used.
How about your computer, or even your car, bet you don't know how it works on the inside but you still use them.

Often you don't want to know how it does it, just the best way of using it. This card is great for that, on the low tide, add as much water quanta as you can so it gets doubled next turn. On the turn its doubled, cast your icebolt and water spells so the smaller amount is halved.

Adrenaline is much easier to understand than this is. But i agree, people are more hesitant to use adrenaline because of it's semi-complex ability, at least those newcomers who don't fully understand. But at least it does what it says for the most part, gives the creature more attacks a turn.

I can understand the first part of this effect, gives those three quanta. But the "May affect" those other quanta is too vague. and your description of the ability doesn't help understanding it much at all, at least until you described it betters. Adrenaline at least has an easy to understand description of it's ability on the wiki.

I agree. The card text is vague and can not be easily elaborated upon.

Whereas, with Adrenaline the card text is 100% accurate. Small attack creatures attack lots more, and large attack creatures only attack a little bit more. What's more important is that the factual data regarding how adrenaline works is easily conveyed in one table:

See the Attacks Chart here: http://elementsthegame.wikia.com/wiki/Adrenaline

But, just for reference:

Damage 1 to 3 equates to 4 attacks.
Damage 4 to 8 equates to 3 attacks.
Damage 9+ equates to 2 attacks.

That is more than enough knowledge conveyed for players to know how this card will affect Frozen creatures, Poisoned creatures and Bone Wall reductions.

I think your idea's are verging on the wrong side of the simplicity line. And therefore I'd agree with Kamietsu, that a lot of people will simply avoid using this card due to the headache it passively causes.

[PhantomFox]

Adrenaline: Total attacks = 5 - sqrt(attack), that much I know.  With rounding of course.  How much each attack is, that I'm still working on.

As for the card itself... I'm not sure what to think of it.  The munchkin in me thinks this could be abused by building up a lot of the intended quanta before it gets doubled, spending it all next turn, therefore bypassing the balancing feature of the subsequent halving.  And that's just for mono decks.  Doubly so for cleverly played Rainbows (though it would take a lot of micro-managing)

The static generation seems like its geared towards rather than (though the lunar theme is , that's for sure).  That is, has existing synergies with  , , and (itself, Anubis, and Scarabs)

[Kael Hate]

Adrenaline: Total attacks = 5 - sqrt(attack), that much I know.  With rounding of course.  How much each attack is, that I'm still working on.

To the others abusing the complexity, how many kids understand algebra to work out Adrenaline and why if its so important to say isn't stated on the card? My card is the same, the techical part is hidden.

As for the card itself... I'm not sure what to think of it.  The munchkin in me thinks this could be abused by building up a lot of the intended quanta before it gets doubled, spending it all next turn, therefore bypassing the balancing feature of the subsequent halving.  And that's just for mono decks.  Doubly so for cleverly played Rainbows (though it would take a lot of micro-managing)

Thats where combos and efficency comes from, the ability to manage resources. The 3 elements that have the Doubling/halving have to sub in Gravity to setup this optimal gain rather than just overdose the deck with towers of their own kind. Rainbow might get a hidden boost, can't build a deck that prooves it tho. Care to help?

The static generation seems like its geared towards rather than (though the lunar theme is , that's for sure).  That is, has existing synergies with  , , and (itself, Anubis, and Scarabs)

Good observation, but how do you fuel to put Luna cycle into play?

 

[Kamietsu]

Adrenaline: Total attacks = 5 - sqrt(attack), that much I know.  With rounding of course.  How much each attack is, that I'm still working on.

To the others abusing the complexity, how many kids understand algebra to work out Adrenaline and why if its so important to say isn't stated on the card? My card is the same, the techical part is hidden.

Yes, it is hidden just like it is with Adrenaline, but Adrenaline at least tells you what happens, not that something "may" happen. Your actual description is too vague.

[Kael Hate]

Yes, it is hidden just like it is with Adrenaline, but Adrenaline at least tells you what happens, not that something "may" happen. Your actual description is too vague.

Suggested replacement description please?

[Kamietsu]

change the second part to: may add or remove  during each phase. This card changes phase each turn.