Inversion | Inversion

[eljoemo]

NAME: Inversion ELEMENT: Aether COST: 5 TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Swap the target creature's ATK with its HP. Cannot target creatures with >16 HP.	NAME: Inversion ELEMENT: Aether COST: 4 TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Swap the target creature's ATK with its HP. Cannot target creatures with >16 HP.

ART: eljoemo IDEA: NOTES: In case the description isn't clear, a 6|9 steel golem would become a 9|6 creature; a firefly would become 2|3; a phoenix would become 1|7 etc. I apologize if this idea has been done before but I haven't seen it on the forums. The element was hard to choose but I think this card is concerned with there being another dimension where Ruby Dragons have high defense and you are substituting this. I avoided Entropy as this card is too similar to antimatter. If you think it belongs in another element just say so. The cap is to avoid Titan->Animate->Inversion->TU->Sky Blitz 200HP combo and stop the card being OP. All questions and constructive criticism welcome. SERIES:

[Zergva]

Delete the restrictions. A creat. below 0 HP is dies, so there's no problem. And this combo needs 5 cards, 25 quanta from 3 pool.

How about making it non-weapon creature?

[skyironsword]

Eh, this has been done before in Mirror World, except without the restriction.

Honestly a 50|X creature isn't that hard to get

[Keolino]

Eh, this has been done before in Mirror World, except without the restriction.

Honestly a 50|X creature isn't that hard to get

I think it was posted somewhere already, that animated weapon+titan+this card+ maybe Quintessence would be somewhat overpowerd. (Since a 50/7 with momentum is quite strong, and you would be able to get it with only a duo deck. (Aether+Gravity+Upped Flying Weapon)

[eljoemo]

Delete the restrictions. A creat. below 0 HP is dies, so there's no problem. And this combo needs 5 cards, 25 quanta from 3 pool.

How about making it non-weapon creature?

I suppose the <0 ATK is pretty self explanatory and not necessary but being able to have a 30|2 armagio for 5 and 4 is OP to me especially since momentum and quint use the same elements. Plus the most popular 200 HP OTK deck Limitless Speed uses 8 cards, 49 quanta from 5 elements.

[skyironsword]

... Armagio has 1 attack. You don't need to buff it.

[eljoemo]

... Armagio has 1 attack. You don't need to buff it.

Upped it has 2|30 so not buffed

[skyironsword]

So why did you mention momentum and quintessence? Those are certainly buffs.

[eljoemo]

So why did you mention momentum and quintessence? Those are certainly buffs.

A 30|2 creature would be dangerous. A 31|3 creature that cannot have damage reduced and cannot be targeted is extremely dangerous. This combo could be done in a duo is what I was saying.

[skyironsword]

Of course it can have its damage reduced. SoW + reflect

[eljoemo]

Of course it can have its damage reduced. SoW + reflect

true but if you don't have those or SoSac in your deck and the opponent pulls out that combo, you're gonna be pretty screwed

[serprex]

This idea again. The HP limit works, except you're only bounding how much the different scaling of attack and health can be exploited
I'll quote myself: I think the issue is that attack scales linearly, whereas health scales with diminishing returns. Having the swap apply something similar to how Catapult scales might make a health/attack swap card be balanced even in the face of Titan

If the resulting attack is half that of catapult: Titan becomes 17|8, Ruby Dragon becomes 1|17
If the resulting health is doubled to maintain inverse reversing itself: Titan becomes 17|16, Ruby Dragon becomes 1|34
If rounding is applied reversal will result in 9|50 on Titan, 15|2 on Ruby Dragon

http://elementscommunity.org/wiki/Catapult
For attack: Find the creature's health in the table's Health column. Take Damage, halved
For health: Find the creature's attack in the table's Damage column. Take Health, doubled