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Nightstalker (unuppedAI3) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50336.msg1086095#msg1086095
« on: July 11, 2013, 07:13:07 am »

Nightstalker   by Gem21
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Avg ttw: 9, full cost of deck 839 :electrum

Start with :death Death as your Mark (step by step)
Spoiler for Hidden:
Sell all the :gravity gravity cards and the quantum pillars (146  :electrum remaining)
Purchase 4x Poison (46  :electrum remaining)
Sell 3xskeleton and 1xbonyard (100 :electrum remaining)
Purchase 4xdeath pendulum(4 :electrum remaining)
Sell 4x death pillar (20 :electrum remaining)
Start quest 1
Turn in quests 1-3 (81 :electrum remaining)
Buy 2xdeath pendulum (33 :electrum remaining)
Sell 2xdeath tower (41 :electrum remaining)
Start quest 4
Turn in quest 4 (about 80 :electrum remaining)
Purchase 1xnightfall (about 27 :electrum remaining)
Switch to :darkness Darkness mark!
Sell 1xflesh spider (about 46 :electrum remaining)
Purchase 1xdeathstalker (about 22 :electrum remaining)
Sell 1xplague (about 62 :electrum remaining)
Purchase 2x deathstalker (about 10 :electrum remaining)
Sell 1xvirus and 1xvulture (about 66 :electrum remaining)
Purchase 2xdeathstalker (about 14 :electrum remaining)
Sell 2xvirus (about 48 :electrum ramaining)
Purchase 1xdeathstalker (about 22 :electrum remaining)
Sell 1xbonewall (about 65 :electrum remaining)
Purchase 1xnightfall (about 8 :electrum remaining)
Sell 1xbonyard (about 47 :electrum remaining)
Start quest 5
Turn in quest 5 (about 102 :electrum remaining)
Purchase 1xnightfall (about 45 :electrum remaining)
Sell 1xvulture (about 84 :electrum remaining)
Purchase 1xdusk mantle (about 24 :electrum remaining)
Sell 1xvirus (about 41 :electrum remaining)
Continue to work on quest 6
Replace dagger with last duskmantle
Replace 1 death pendulum with a bone dragon

Upgrading
Spoiler for Hidden:
Get Arsenic at 500 score (quest 7)
Upgrade 5xDeath Pendulum Sell the 6th
Upgrade 3xNightfall
Upgrade Arsenic
Upgrade 5xBone Pillar Sell the 6th
Upgrade 6xPoison
Upgrade the rest as you see fit

Strategy
Spoiler for Hidden:
Always play Poisons as soon as possible, unless you have upgraded pendulum/tower then play Arsenic before Poison.
Do not play Deathstalkers until you can play nightfall/eclipse with them, the exception to this is Otyugh, play one Deathstalker to poison it till it can't devour again.
Don't stress on towers once upgraded the quanta shows up as necessary even against permanent control and quanta destruction. As the the deck runs on low quanta and is a speed deck.
Bone/Ivory Dragons are not a priority they are just heavy hitters when they show up.
Dusk Mantles are buffers and help for drawn out games.
Potential addition to the deck would be Steal.
« Last Edit: July 12, 2013, 04:59:52 pm by Daulphas »
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Re: Nightstalker (unuppedAI3) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50336.msg1086167#msg1086167
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2013, 01:50:35 pm »
Aye, I've made bazillions of Stalker decks in my days. The one I usually run has Death mark for Stalkers and focuses on removing threats with 6 Drain Life's, 2 Dusks and a Stiletto (3 Steals and Nightfalls). 10 Obsidian Pillars works alright for it. I'd like to pack 12 for more QC resistance, but there's no room.

The problem with your deck is that it functions as a rush, but it's not a rush. You have no control for mitigating damage, and only one Dusk Mantle. It'll get demolished by a simple rush 90% of the time, a PC rush 100% of the time, and those are very common in PvP1/Arena and competitive PvP too. On the plus side it won't succumb to CC as badly as decks that rely completely on Stalkers do, because you have Poisons and two Dragons. The best option would be Arsenics for that purpose, as they add the most for 2 cards, aren't vulnerable to CC and you don't need to pack 6 copies as with Poison. Obvious downside is being affected by shields, but because Stalkers are already completely shut down by the vast majority of them, I find Steals to be absolutely vital already.

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Re: Nightstalker (unuppedAI3) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50336.msg1086486#msg1086486
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2013, 05:09:27 pm »
Thanks for the insight.  ;D

Indeed this is a fast deck with the scorps and as stated it does average turn 8/9 win.
I missed the 2nd dusk mantle instead of 7 pendulums.(fixed)
This isn't a PVP deck and I wouldnt even think to use it in that fashion, unupped it is purely AI3.
However once its been upped with at least the pendulums and eclipse it does do rather well in bronze as well.(going to test full upgrade in silver/gold)
I did reference under the upgrading spoiler to grab arsenic it is indeed a powerful addition to the deck as well under strategy spoiler mentioned the addition of steal as well.
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Re: Nightstalker (unuppedAI3) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50336.msg1086589#msg1086589
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2013, 12:36:50 am »
It definitely needs steals. I would take out dusk mantles and add 3 steals. Since it's a deathstalker rush it needs PC for shields, but if you add steals and don't take out dusk mantle, it'll be quanta starved.
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Re: Nightstalker (unuppedAI3) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50336.msg1086613#msg1086613
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2013, 02:53:46 am »
Steals for the Dusk Mantles is a personal choice.
'Personal' play-style I find Dusk Mantle is a huge boon.
Steal is going to help for a number of shields and other nice bonuses, it is definitely a good addition or replacement.
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