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Mystery Box | Mystery Box https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48273.msg1057617#msg1057617
« on: April 06, 2013, 01:58:58 pm »
NAME:
Mystery Box
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
3 :entropy
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
:entropy : Open the box
Draw a random card.
NAME:
Mystery Box
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
3 :entropy
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
:entropy : Open the box
Draw a random upgraded card.

ART:
emolbay
IDEA:
emolbay
NOTES:

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« Last Edit: April 09, 2013, 07:41:51 am by emolbay »

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Re: Mystery Box https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48273.msg1057621#msg1057621
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2013, 02:11:51 pm »
So it's just a one card-SoSe?
EDIT: thought that was a spell. I'll correct myself: It's basically a infinite Sose. Extremely powerful. SoSe isn't used too much now, with this card it will become useless.  Also, they have the same cost, making this very OP.
« Last Edit: April 06, 2013, 02:15:07 pm by Narukta »
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Re: Mystery Box https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48273.msg1057634#msg1057634
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2013, 02:34:21 pm »
Well, SoSe always gives you 3 cards, Mistery Box in the worst case will let you spend 3 :entropy and then your opponent can steal/deflag it, in the best case you can use it once per turn.

A little table of comparison:

1 CARD-4 :entropy + 1 card + 1 turn
2 CARDS-5 :entropy + 1 card + 2 turns
3 CARDS3 :entropy + 1 card6 :entropy + 1 card + 3 turns
4 CARDS-7 :entropy + 1 card + 4 turns
5 CARDS-8 :entropy + 1 card + 5 turns
6 CARDS6 :entropy + 2 cards9 :entropy + 1 card + 6 turns
7 CARDS-10 :entropy + 1 card + 7 turns
8 CARDS-11 :entropy + 1 card + 8 turns
9 CARDS9 :entropy + 3 cards12 :entropy + 1 card + 9 turns

In fact, this card is NEVER better than Shard of Serendipity. Since Shard of Serendipity is not considered OP, i think this card could be even considered UP.

I think you can lower the cost of the card to 1 :entropy, and it will still be less powerful than SoSe, but it would be usable that way.
This would be the result with the proposed modification:

1 CARD-2 :entropy + 1 card + 1 turn
2 CARDS-3 :entropy + 1 card + 2 turns
3 CARDS3 :entropy + 1 card4 :entropy + 1 card + 3 turns
4 CARDS-5 :entropy + 1 card + 4 turns
5 CARDS-6 :entropy + 1 card + 5 turns
6 CARDS6 :entropy + 2 cards7 :entropy + 1 card + 6 turns
7 CARDS-8 :entropy + 1 card + 7 turns
8 CARDS-9 :entropy + 1 card + 8 turns
9 CARDS9 :entropy + 3 cards10 :entropy + 1 card + 9 turns

Anyway, i like this card, i feel it's nice to have a permanent like this.

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Re: Mystery Box https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48273.msg1057648#msg1057648
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2013, 03:39:16 pm »
note: drawing implies from the deck. might wanna word it the way SoSe is with "add a random card to your hand"
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Re: Mystery Box https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48273.msg1057667#msg1057667
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2013, 05:36:14 pm »
its like the cheaper and better version of Golden hourglass.
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Re: Mystery Box https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48273.msg1057719#msg1057719
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2013, 08:50:14 pm »
This is completely different from Golden Hourglass. Hourglass draws cards from your deck (so you know you will only get cards you put in your deck) and also reduces the deck size, so it helps to draw certain cards which you want. This generates random cards and doesn't reduce your deck size.

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Re: Mystery Box https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48273.msg1057743#msg1057743
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2013, 09:45:39 pm »
This is completely different from Golden Hourglass. Hourglass draws cards from your deck (so you know you will only get cards you put in your deck) and also reduces the deck size, so it helps to draw certain cards which you want. This generates random cards and doesn't reduce your deck size.
thats what i mean better, its cheaper and it doenst reduce deck size. rainbow decks will absolutely use this
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Re: Mystery Box https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48273.msg1057744#msg1057744
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2013, 09:49:19 pm »
This is completely different from Golden Hourglass. Hourglass draws cards from your deck (so you know you will only get cards you put in your deck) and also reduces the deck size, so it helps to draw certain cards which you want. This generates random cards and doesn't reduce your deck size.
thats what i mean better, its cheaper and it doenst reduce deck size. rainbow decks will absolutely use this
But if you're playing a combo based deck (e.g. an OTK) you want to reduce your deck size so you can draw the cards you need, and certainly not random cards. This card and hourglass have completely different purposes.

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Re: Mystery Box https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48273.msg1057746#msg1057746
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2013, 09:51:16 pm »
I agree this & Hourglass are completely different. I actually like this card, but I think we should use Mindgate as a comparison medium to fix its playing/ability cost.
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Re: Mystery Box https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48273.msg1057774#msg1057774
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2013, 11:38:21 pm »
This is interesting. I like it.
My default opinion of a new card is OP. Your job as a card creator will have to be to convince me otherwise.
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Re: Mystery Box https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48273.msg1057805#msg1057805
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2013, 02:38:16 am »
I agree this & Hourglass are completely different. I actually like this card, but I think we should use Mindgate as a comparison medium to fix its playing/ability cost.

Mindgate is closer to this, but with mindgate you know that the cards you get will (probably) fit some sort of strategy.

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Re: Mystery Box https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48273.msg1057852#msg1057852
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2013, 07:32:22 am »
Sure this card isn't very practical, but hey it could be fun to use.
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