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Withdraw | Improved Withdraw https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47693.msg1050800#msg1050800
« on: March 14, 2013, 01:03:46 am »
NAME:
Withdraw
ELEMENT:
Earth
COST:
1 :earth
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
If target is afflicted with a condition, the damage it deals and takes from other cards is reduced by 1.
NAME:
Improved Withdraw
ELEMENT:
Earth
COST:
1 :earth
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
If target is afflicted with a condition, the damage it deals and takes from other cards is reduced by 2.

ART:
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IDEA:
Drake_XIV
NOTES:
And this comes from my Milotic's Marvel Scale.

Can only target creatures.

Conditions are anything that would place a 'counter' on a card and Freeze/Delay:

Poison
Purify
Gravity Pull
Adrenaline
Immaterial
Freeze
Delay
SERIES:

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Re: Withdraw | Improved Withdraw https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47693.msg1050810#msg1050810
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2013, 02:01:18 am »
How does it work? The creature must be first afflicted by the condition for us to target it with the withdraw?

Because if that's the case, "Immaterial" shouldn't be on the list, I believe.
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Re: Withdraw | Improved Withdraw https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47693.msg1050812#msg1050812
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2013, 02:22:07 am »
The creature does not have to be afflicted before Withdraw is used.
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Re: Withdraw | Improved Withdraw https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47693.msg1050815#msg1050815
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2013, 03:24:29 am »
Unstoppable Malignant Voodoos! Invulnerable to Fire Shield! What a wonderful card!
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Re: Withdraw | Improved Withdraw https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47693.msg1050850#msg1050850
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2013, 06:26:29 am »
And don't forget use with Armagio.  Wall with 'DR'
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Re: Withdraw | Improved Withdraw https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47693.msg1062646#msg1062646
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2013, 02:49:47 am »
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Re: Withdraw | Improved Withdraw https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47693.msg1062833#msg1062833
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2013, 08:53:15 pm »
Indestructible armagio ftw ^_^

... if it stacks. :(
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Re: Withdraw | Improved Withdraw https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47693.msg1062836#msg1062836
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2013, 09:03:19 pm »
Hmmm... this will be OPl if it stacks too far.

There should be a limit to how far the DR can stack.

One way would be to just set a hard limit (maybe 3)

Another would be to make the effect only give a % chance to get the bonus. If the chance is linked to the current DR then you can give a higher upper max or even possibly remove the limit altogether:
"Target creature now has a chance to gain +1 damage reduction and -1|+0 any time it recieves a negative effect."

So maybe you could have something like: P(bonus DR) = 100% / (current DR + 1)
So at 0 DR it will automatically gain more DR, after that it drops off harmonically.
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Re: Withdraw | Improved Withdraw https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47693.msg1062898#msg1062898
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2013, 12:10:11 am »
It does not stack.
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Re: Withdraw | Improved Withdraw https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47693.msg1062912#msg1062912
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2013, 12:28:09 am »
Quote from: Drake_XIV on April 23, 2013, 12:10:11 am
It does not stack.
In that case, I see no balance issues with it.

It should make a fun addition to Armagio decks.

... For some reason I can't cast a Vote, but I would give a 4 out of 5 if I could... Its not an OMG crazy good effect, but I do think it would make a very valuable addition to earth's arsenal... And there is something to be said for subtlety :)
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Re: Withdraw | Improved Withdraw https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47693.msg1063046#msg1063046
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2013, 09:59:27 am »
this only seems good with gravity pull. does it stack? oh wait no.
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Re: Withdraw | Improved Withdraw https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47693.msg1063112#msg1063112
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2013, 03:08:22 pm »
You can use it on a creature your opponent controls that has Adrenaline to drop the amount of damage it does by 1|2.
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