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Marsh Troll | Swamp Troll https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47478.msg1048703#msg1048703
« on: March 06, 2013, 04:17:32 am »
NAME:
Marsh Troll
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
5 :life
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
6 | 6
TEXT:
:death :death : Dredge
When target creature is destroyed, the owner discards a card from his deck instead.
NAME:
Swamp Troll
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
6 :life
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
8 | 8
TEXT:
:death :death : Dredge
When target creature is destroyed, the owner discards a card from his deck instead.

ART:
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IDEA:
Drake_XIV
NOTES:
As Rut knows, with the little amount of time I have had with MtG, I kind of gravitate towards Golgari decks, so here is this.

The target card is replayed when it would have died, losing all status and damage.

Dredge can force loss by deck out.
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« Last Edit: April 22, 2013, 02:41:29 am by Drake_XIV »
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Re: Marsh Troll | Swamp Troll https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47478.msg1048706#msg1048706
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2013, 04:28:49 am »
I saw the connection right away :)

What do you think about letting it affect permanents?
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Re: Marsh Troll | Swamp Troll https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47478.msg1048793#msg1048793
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2013, 04:29:14 pm »
Ahhh drudge skeletons... I do miss MtG some days... At least the old MtG before the 80 billion expansions (i picked it up back in 3rd edition so I've gotten a little jaded)
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Re: Marsh Troll | Swamp Troll https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47478.msg1062643#msg1062643
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2013, 02:41:41 am »
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Re: Marsh Troll | Swamp Troll https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47478.msg1063051#msg1063051
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2013, 10:09:15 am »
I'm not sure if this should be an active ability or more of a field effect. it'd be cool if this worked every time.

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Re: Marsh Troll | Swamp Troll https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47478.msg1063110#msg1063110
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2013, 03:06:18 pm »
If Shrodinger is targeted with Dredge and Dead or Alive is used, it remains on the field and is still affected by Dredge while its owner mills one card.
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Re: Marsh Troll | Swamp Troll https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47478.msg1063345#msg1063345
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2013, 07:14:39 am »
I think the ability cost should be reduced to 1.
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Re: Marsh Troll | Swamp Troll https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47478.msg1063363#msg1063363
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2013, 10:54:38 am »
I think that it needs stats' change: without the ability, it's a good attacker with very good HP for a relatively low cost.
Also, I don't understand well the ability's description in the notes: when a creature is "dredged", and should die, does it die and the owner discards a card or he/she discards a card but the creature doesn't die?
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Re: Marsh Troll | Swamp Troll https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47478.msg1063406#msg1063406
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2013, 03:30:56 pm »
Quote from: Narukta on April 24, 2013, 10:54:38 am
I think that it needs stats' change: without the ability, it's a good attacker with very good HP for a relatively low cost.
Also, I don't understand well the ability's description in the notes: when a creature is "dredged", and should die, does it die and the owner discards a card or he/she discards a card but the creature doesn't die?

When a creature is targeted with Dredge and is killed, it does not die.  It is instead replayed and the owner is forced to discard a card from their deck.
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