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Death Unseen | Death Unseen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47085.msg1044758#msg1044758
« on: February 21, 2013, 02:07:32 am »
NAME:
Death Unseen
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
1 :death
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Acts as if a creature died.
If this card is discarded, absorb :death :death and acts as if 2 creatures died instead.
NAME:
Death Unseen
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
1
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Acts as if a creature died.
If this card is discarded, absorb :death and acts as if 2 creatures died instead.

ART:
EmeraldTiger modified Death symbol
IDEA:
EmeraldTiger
NOTES:

SERIES:



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NAME:
Death Unseen
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
3 :death
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Acts as if a creature died.
If this card is discarded, absorb :death :death :death :death and acts as if 2 creatures died instead.
NAME:
Death Unseen
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
2 :death
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Acts as if a creature died.
If this card is discarded, absorb :death :death :death  and acts as if 2 creatures died instead.

ART:
EmeraldTiger modified Death symbol
IDEA:
EmeraldTiger
NOTES:

SERIES:

« Last Edit: February 21, 2013, 05:47:21 pm by EmeraldTiger »
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Re: Death Unseen | Death Unseen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47085.msg1044776#msg1044776
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2013, 03:23:46 am »
Interesting idea. I am definitely in support of more in-element opportunities for Death to activate death effects. I also love the aspect of discarding the card to trigger death effects twice. Just one suggestion: I think that the side effect quanta drain amount for when the card is discarded could be lowered by 1 for both the unupped and the upped version, since it is sort of difficult to control getting into the position to discard a card. The fact that this card works better discarded is great, since death is kind of about patiently awaiting the demise of the opponent. Great idea!

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R: Death Unseen | Death Unseen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47085.msg1044813#msg1044813
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2013, 08:13:40 am »
Cool idea, but I think it is a little expensive for a death effect. You're using a card and 3 :death for that.
Virus achieve the same for 1 card, 1 :death and 1 turn (and also gives damage and poison)
I think you can lower the cost by 1.
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Re: Death Unseen | Death Unseen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47085.msg1044865#msg1044865
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2013, 01:08:46 pm »
Okay, I will adjust it soon. This was mainly an example for OdinVanguard, of what can be done with a discard effect.
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Re: Death Unseen | Death Unseen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47085.msg1044925#msg1044925
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2013, 04:59:27 pm »
Interesting. Its not the first time a death trigger card has been proposed but I think its the first time I've seen it worked into a discard cast effect.

I tend to see "trigger death effects" used for this sort of effect rather than  "Acts as if a creature died". I think the former is slightly shorter, but they both get the idea across.

It seems slightly pricey to me, but otherwise looks pretty good.
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Re: Death Unseen | Death Unseen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47085.msg1044931#msg1044931
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2013, 05:48:30 pm »
Is cost too low now?
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Re: Death Unseen | Death Unseen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47085.msg1044934#msg1044934
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2013, 05:54:25 pm »
I'd make it a 0 cost card (maybe 1 if you are worried about the mulligan) to increase the synergy with Soul Catcher. Maybe the upped one could trigger an extra death effect.

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Re: Death Unseen | Death Unseen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47085.msg1044955#msg1044955
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2013, 06:58:51 pm »
It should work well with that cost I think.
Considering you can get a death effect plus poison / plague using virus or retrovirus for close to the same cost, this seems about right.
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Re: Death Unseen | Death Unseen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47085.msg1045291#msg1045291
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2013, 09:34:30 pm »
Imho, "Acts as if a creature died" should be rephrased to "trigger a death effect" and "acts as if 2 creatures died" should be rephrased to "trigger 2 death effects".
About the idea, it is good, but I don't think more death triggers is what the game needs right now. I think that :death should become more versatile.
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