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Ghost of the Pyre | Ghost of the Pyre https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46969.msg1043432#msg1043432
« on: February 17, 2013, 01:04:38 am »
NAME:
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COST:
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TYPE:
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ATK|HP:
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TEXT:
Incinerate: When this card is discarded, destroy a permanent you control.
NAME:
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ELEMENT:
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COST:
5 :fire
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
9 | 0
TEXT:
Incinerate: When this card is removed from your hand, destroy a permanent you control.

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Re: Ghost of the Pyre | Ghost of the Pyre https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46969.msg1043436#msg1043436
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2013, 01:11:26 am »
I understand the duo with Nightmare, but the fact it has 0 HP makes it either a forced duo with Nightmare, or requiring a buff for it to be worth it. Maybe at least 1 HP?
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Re: Ghost of the Pyre | Ghost of the Pyre https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46969.msg1043438#msg1043438
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2013, 01:14:39 am »
That makes it clash with Seraph and didn't want it to be fueled with Immolation.

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Re: Ghost of the Pyre | Ghost of the Pyre https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46969.msg1043444#msg1043444
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2013, 01:39:29 am »
Well, does Fire really need another creature with 7 attack anyway? Especially if it will die instantly or needs a duo for it to be used?
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Re: Ghost of the Pyre | Ghost of the Pyre https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46969.msg1043457#msg1043457
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2013, 02:06:17 am »
Neither versions have 7 ATT...

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Re: Ghost of the Pyre | Ghost of the Pyre https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46969.msg1043461#msg1043461
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2013, 02:39:33 am »
I was thinking of cost. Sorry about that. I just think it won't be used outside of a duo, and I don't like that aspect.
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Re: Ghost of the Pyre | Ghost of the Pyre https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46969.msg1043464#msg1043464
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2013, 02:45:11 am »
Ah.  I guess it suffers the same issue as Phase Salvager.  However, I always felt MonoFire didn't really need any more benefits and would like to see more synergy...

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Re: Ghost of the Pyre | Ghost of the Pyre https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46969.msg1043465#msg1043465
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2013, 02:47:37 am »
Well, the only synergy (that would truly be worth going out of your way for) is with Darkness. Darkness already has synergy with Fire.

maybe the cost could come down?
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Re: Ghost of the Pyre | Ghost of the Pyre https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46969.msg1043486#msg1043486
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2013, 05:16:55 am »
I agree with whatifidoetcaught, and I don't see this being used pretty much at all. Not even for the death effects that might come with it.
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Re: Ghost of the Pyre | Ghost of the Pyre https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46969.msg1043498#msg1043498
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2013, 06:47:22 am »
Okay, dropped cost due to the 0 HP.  If it is still deemed to unusable, I'll be reworking the ability.

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Re: Ghost of the Pyre | Ghost of the Pyre https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46969.msg1043586#msg1043586
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2013, 05:32:01 pm »
From a PvP perspective, the new cost would help its usage, but not enough where people would go out of their way to use it. Sure, this+Nightmare could be pretty annoying, but I would just as soon use a simple SoFo, where I can destroy 3 permanents of choice and get a Black Hole for use. Or, just a simple Ghostmare, which would have better rush capabilities.

From an AI perspective, it would be treated like a Spark.

In other words, I think this card still needs desperate help. The dropped cost helps, but it either needs a) HP or b) a more dangerous ability
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Re: Ghost of the Pyre | Ghost of the Pyre https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46969.msg1043645#msg1043645
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2013, 09:18:42 pm »
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,36888.0.html (notes section)
though it doesnt look like he ever started a thread for it...
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