Premature Burial | Premature Burial

[Elbirn]

NAME: Premature Burial ELEMENT: Death COST: 2 TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Target creature is burrowed. Target creature cannot be targeted, but its damage is halved. Trigger death effects.	NAME: Premature Burial ELEMENT: Death COST: 2 TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Target creature is burrowed. Target creature cannot be targeted, but its damage is halved. Trigger death effects.

ART: Shadow303 IDEA: Elbirn NOTES: First submitted idea, didn't see anything too similar after searching. It's basically supposed to be flexible, soft CC for death. Note that a creature burrowed due to this card will not gain the "unburrow" ability. However, burrowing a creature that already has burrow/unburrow would be able to free itself. Or at least, I believe this to be the case, if any of you don't think this is how it would work mechanically, please point it out. Help and criticism is much appreciated, as would be any art ^_^ special thanks to Shadow303 for his artwork. SERIES:

[Drake_XIV]

This idea of forced burrowing has been done before.

[Elbirn]

Ah. Well then.
Don't suppose you know what the other card was called? I'd like to take a look-see.

[Elbirn]

*Bump

Looking for a little feedback, plus I changed the card a wee bit. Added the blip about death effects.
As Drake has said, similar ideas have been done, though not with this thematic as far as I've been able to find. (Actually, in all my searches, I couldn't find one that did exactly what this card did...Only a single comment from a guest user in 2010 complaining that "Forced burrowing ideas are overdone xD) Is the card unique enough to be worth submitting? Should I rework the idea entirely? I like the thematic and would like to work with it, but if the mechanic is too overused/generic, I'll scrap it.

[ddevans96]

Well...about the name...

That being said, I really would like to see forced burrowing, and this seems like a nice implementation of it. Nice work :3

[AvusXIV]

I would put the card to earth, and not even consider anywhere else.

[Elbirn]

Ddevans: I've never really played yugioh, but while I was making this card I did stumble across that. I'd change the name, but I'm not certain what else would work. I wanted to call this card "Vivisepulture" (Latin, literally "burial alive") originally, but I didn't think anyone would get it..

Avus: Interesting. Why is that? I can understand that burial and burrowing is very  :earthy, but the thematic of being buried alive just says  to me.

[ddevans96]

Buried Alive would work :3

[AvusXIV]

Avus: Interesting. Why is that? I can understand that burial and burrowing is very  :earthy, but the thematic of being buried alive just says  to me.

The way I got it, the *causing* thing or idea tells to which element a card belongs to.
Burying/burrowing is definitely earth. You are buried/burrowed in soil, and three creatures out of four that are able to burrow at all are from the earth element.

It's like saying 'being burnt by a fireball', 'being petrified' or 'being frozen' feels like to me just because it's the consequence

[OdinVanguard]

Its an amusing card idea, though as others have said, forced burrow has been suggested before...

It occurs to me that a creature that has been burried alive would eventually suffocate and die. That could make an amusing way to distinguish this card as well... perhaps have it put a poison counter on the target to mimic this effect?

E.g.
"Burrow target creature and inflict 1 poison on it. It is now untargettable but its attack is halved. Trigger death effects."

[Elbirn]

DD: Buried Alive could also work, thankies!

Avus: You make good points, which I'll certainly consider. Thanks for the feedback I think if I were to make this an  card though, I would want to rework the theme entirely. To me, a live burial isn't just earthy. It is Gothic and dark. The connection to dying, cemeteries, and the like also says "death" to me. I could find a way to make the card some sort of  / combo, but that might feel a bit too complicated.

Idea for this mechanic as just an card: Rock Slide?
Alternative: Avalanche. card

There's a lot of ways to do this, really.

Odin: Interesting, but a bit wordy. Text box is full as is. Also, if I were to make your suggested change, there would be a lot of overlap with  's other poison related cards. Example, why would anyone use (unupped) Virus when they could just cast Burial on the same target, accomplishing the same task, cutting the attack in half in the interim, and doing it a turn earlier and without the risk of CC?

I will admit though that an eventual death for the burrowed creature would make sense thematically. But following that same train of thought, should a creature that's buried alive be able to attack in the first place? If I were to follow that as well, would a creature that's immaterial, with 0 attack, soon to die, and has death effects triggered after the spell is cast...Isn't that creature essentially dead anyway? Food for thought.

[OdinVanguard]

I will admit though that an eventual death for the burrowed creature would make sense thematically. But following that same train of thought, should a creature that's buried alive be able to attack in the first place? If I were to follow that as well, would a creature that's immaterial, with 0 attack, soon to die, and has death effects triggered after the spell is cast...Isn't that creature essentially dead anyway? Food for thought.

Good point... although a creature with a powerful skill could still be dangerous (e.g. consider putting this on SoF, or a Dragon with mitosis and SoR ... etc. its the cost of quint, but the trade off is lower attack and eventual death)

if I were to make your suggested change, there would be a lot of overlap with  's other poison related cards. Example, why would anyone use (unupped) Virus when they could just cast Burial on the same target

As an alternative, it could lose max HP instead of current HP. Since lowering max HP will not drain its last HP (see Shard of Void) it will have a different niche than virus... perhaps you could use something like:
"Bury a creature, makes it untargettable, halves its attack, and drains 1 max HP per turn. Triggers death effects."
(I made sure the wording fits on the card)
While this alone will not kill a creature, it will make it more susceptible to skull shield (which has a kill chance of .5/hp)