Killing Fear | Killing Horror

[drNovikov]

NAME: Killing Fear ELEMENT: Darkness COST: 2 TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Deals 3 damage to the target creature and makes it flee to the owner's deck.	NAME: Killing Horror ELEMENT: Darkness COST: 6 TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Deals 2 damage to all enemy creatures and makes them flee to the owner's deck.

ART: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,34339.0.html IDEA: drNovikov NOTES: SERIES: Death and Darkness

[Absol]

Just one question.
Why would you attack target creature before RTing it to the deck?

[drNovikov]

This is a Killing Fear, so weak creatures just die from this spell. Stronger creatures flee back to the deck.

[Absol]

Unupped, compare this:

Upped, compare this:


Conclusion:
Unupped, it's overshadowed by both Lightning (for killing) and Reverse Time (for pseudo instant kill)
Upped, it overshadows Fire Storm (pseudo instant kill any creatures while massive draw denial. By chance to get critical cards.)

[drNovikov]

Well, upped card probably should overshadow unupped cards. Unupped cards are overshadowed because I just don't want full symmetry.

How would you change the cards?

[Rutarete]

I like the idea of fleeing to the deck. As for changing it to not overshadow those cards, why not give it a 30% chance to flee?

[drNovikov]

I like the idea of fleeing to the deck. As for changing it to not overshadow those cards, why not give it a 30% chance to flee?

You can give a 100% chance to flee for the same 2 quanta with 'Reverse Time'. 30% is way underpowered.

[Rutarete]

I like the idea of fleeing to the deck. As for changing it to not overshadow those cards, why not give it a 30% chance to flee?

You can give a 100% chance to flee for the same 2 quanta with 'Reverse Time'. 30% is way underpowered.

I know it's UP. It's an example.

[OdinVanguard]

Sending a card back to its deck is pretty much time's gig thematically. The card concept is intersting and you could certainly make a case for the fleeing mechanic fitting in under darkness, but I think you are going to meet some resistance since it is stepping on time's toes quite a bit.

[Drake_XIV]

Sending a card back to its deck is pretty much time's gig thematically. The card concept is intersting and you could certainly make a case for the fleeing mechanic fitting in under darkness, but I think you are going to meet some resistance since it is stepping on time's toes quite a bit.

Yes, my biggest qualm with this idea is that this treading into 's territory far too much.

In regards to you NOTES, needs help protecting its creatures?  Say hello to...

[drNovikov]

In regards to you NOTES, needs help protecting its creatures?  Say hello to...

Not "its creatires", but "from creatures"

[Elbirn]

The upgraded form of this is a reverse time on the entire enemy field.
...That's the most OP card idea I've ever encountered. xD

My opinion: Stick with the theme, but make a completely different card.

Maybe a creature affected with Fear can be too scared to attack and susceptible to death. Compare to freeze+shockwave. A frozen creature is delayed for 3 turns, and if shockwave is used on a frozen creature, it is instant killed. Maybe Killing Fear/Horror delays a target creature for 1 turn, during which they are too afraid to attack. Any CC used on an afraid creature kills it instantly. Alternatively, maybe only a drain life played on an afraid creature can instant kill it.

I feel like this provides that CC that you're looking for while avoiding stepping into  territory. It does make for, well, the same effect as freeze+shockwave though...But it is just an idea, after all. I'm sure it could be balanced or tweaked to make it useful in it's own right without over shadowing the aforementioned combo.