Quantum Deposition | Quantum Deposition

[eaglgenes101]

NAME: Quantum Deposition ELEMENT: Earth COST: 3 TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Opponent may not spend more than 10% of currently possessed quanta in each pool during next turn.	NAME: Quantum Deposition ELEMENT: Earth COST: 2 TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Opponent may not spend more than 10% of currently possessed quanta in each pool during next turn.

ART: eaglgenes101 IDEA: OdinVanguard (From eaglgenes101's idea) NOTES: Something of an earth silence. Low-cost cards can be played, and skills can't be used unless they're also low-cost. This card is also made so quanta from sources like nova can be used the same turn the quanta is generated. SERIES: Series: Denial

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NAME: Energy Lock ELEMENT: Earth COST: 3 TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: The opponent cannot spend any quanta possessed now during the next turn.	NAME: Quantum Lock ELEMENT: Earth COST: 2 TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: The opponent cannot spend any quanta possessed now during the next turn.

ART: eaglgenes101 IDEA: eaglgenes101 NOTES: Looks like an earth silence, but free cards can be played, and skills can't be used unless they're free. This card is also made so quanta from sources like nova can be used the same turn the quanta is generated. SERIES: Series: Denial

NAME: Energy Lock ELEMENT: Earth COST: 3 TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: The opponent cannot spend any quanta during the next turn.	NAME: Quantum Lock ELEMENT: Earth COST: 2 TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: The opponent cannot spend any quanta during the next turn.

ART: eaglgenes101 IDEA: eaglgenes101 NOTES: Looks like an earth silence, but free cards can be played, and skills can't be used unless they're free. SERIES: Series: Denial

[furballdn]

I'm wondering if it should be 4|3 ;earth instead of 3|2 earth. A quanta lock is more powerful than silence, since not being able to use abilities is much more devastating than not being able to play a free card. An ability can change the game. A free card played most of the time can't.

How does this fit thematically? Why do you think this is balanced? Explain your reasoning to me.

[eaglgenes101]

I'm thinking of energy stores being blocked up by rock, unable to be channeled into cards.

My opinion of this card's balance was mainly based on Silence.

Should I edit the card to allow quanta from instantaneous sources such as nova used the locked turn to be used? How should that be worded?

[OdinVanguard]

This will block both spells and ability / skill use, so it will overshadow silence unless it is a fair amount more expensive... perhaps a casting cost boost is in order?

[furballdn]

I'm thinking of energy stores being blocked up by rock, unable to be channeled into cards.
I'm sorry. I'm not really seeing that at all. That feels sort of like gravity's thing (perhaps electromagnetism?) I don't see how regular rocks can block energy.
My opinion of this card's balance was mainly based on Silence.
And thus it should be close to 3|2. It is slightly better than silence though. I am asking if that edge it has over silence is enough to warrant another .
Should I edit the card to allow quanta from instantaneous sources such as nova used the locked turn to be used? How should that be worded?
Mechanically, no. You said that no quanta can be spent when the card is played.

Is it blockable by sanctuary?

[eaglgenes101]

Yes, it is blockable by Sanct.

And I drew this image to clarify the thematics of this card: (large image)

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[eaglgenes101]

Changed so quanta from instantaneous sources can be used.

[EmeraldTiger]

How does this fit in with the thematics of the element and game?

[Elbirn]

That image explained absolutely nothing.
And yet it was hilarious.
+Rep for making me laugh.

Anyway. I agree that gravity would make more sense. I see gravity as being the element of energy and force.

[AvusXIV]

I can only imagine how funny it would be in the arena: AI has 6 Silence, 6 Quantum Lock and some draw cards in a SNbow. Each turn you get at least one of them put on you: Space. Space. Space. Space. Space. You lost! Player starting: 3 Towers played. Space. Space. Space. Space. Space. Space. You lost!
But okay, that's just part of the game and maybe not the main source for critics, I know.

Though I think this card is way worse than Silence because besides gaining little quanta by two, or maybe three novas in the same turn (if saved), you can't use your creature's abilities nor play any perms, spells or creatures at all that are not free. Which free cards would that be? Holy flash? Gemfinder? RoL? Shortly said: If you are just depending on Pills/Pends, your choices are very limited -> If silenced, you can still use Destroy/Pulvy/Accretion/Steal (from creatures) or use CC from creature abilities and even produce new creatures with Mitosis, Queen, Pharaoh. Even the Rustler would not be able to produce Life quanta as long as it's not SoRed - and losing most of it's power - even though it's the only one at all being able to produce quanta that can be used in the same turn (only considering creatures).

[Sackett]

Maybe something less powerful such as:  No quanta is produced until the beginning of your next turn.

That would harm you as well, but if you are playing a Quanta Denial Deck it could be quite useful.   I think you'd want it in something other then Earth though, otherwise too much power when teamed up with Quake.

Plus thematically it seems to me to fit better in something like Entropy, or maybe Gravity, where it would be combined with Black Hole.

[OdinVanguard]

Perhaps instead of putting a hard lock on quanta possessed, make it a low but non-zero percentage.
E.g.
"Opponent may not spend more than 10% of currently possessed quanta in each pool during next turn."

So players with 10 or less quanta in each pool are out of luck.
At 10-19 quanta in a pool, they may spend 1 , at 20-29 they can spend 2... etc.

This card would then be very useful early on, but less so as the game progresses (unless coupled with other denial cards).
It also would force opponents to be careful of how much they spend in a turn, lest they be blocked from playing a key card during a critical turn.

This card would then be more of a precision strategic tool outside of hard denial decks.

One question would the locked quanta still get counted for purpose of using bolts? E.g. if the opponent had 70 quanta and used nova to cast a fire lance while this was up, would the lance do the full 24 damage, or would it only do 3?
If the latter holds, then this card (even the toned down one I suggested) could be very useful as a counter to bolt reliant decks.