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Delta | Delta https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42514.msg529554#msg529554
« on: August 06, 2012, 04:04:03 am »
NAME:
Delta
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
11 :entropy
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
For every extra 5 :entropy, a random enemy creature will have "mind control" stasis. Its attacks may redirect or die.
NAME:
Delta
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
11 :entropy
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
For every extra 4 :entropy, a random enemy creature will have "mind control" stasis. Its attacks may redirect or die.

ART:
Anonymous
IDEA:
Anonymous
NOTES:
Please comment and tell me how I should improve my card art thanks. The black signet at the right are 6 miniscule Greek letter Deltas in rotational symmetry. The triangle at center is the majuscule Greek letter Delta.

Effects of mind control: (per turn)
Attacks the owner 40%
Attacks one of the owner's creatures 25%
Does not attack 20%
No effect 10%
Automatically destroyed. The quanta required to summon it will be added to the owner 5%
SERIES:
Sigil Series. http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,42603.0.html
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Re: Delta | Delta https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42514.msg529585#msg529585
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2012, 06:14:16 am »
I'd put costs at 8|8, based on AM's similar turncoat effect.  The chance to fail or weaken balances this out slightly.

Also, I'd consider raining the chance of being unaffected by Control.

Also, is this a obe turn effect, or does Control last?

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Re: Delta | Delta https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42514.msg529593#msg529593
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2012, 06:28:33 am »
Sorry, I really don't get what you're trying to say.

But, I can tell you that it will be permanent, unless, another effect takes its place like liquid shadow, which replaces the mind control stasis.

Also, note that it is for every 5 :entropy, it does not use up [or εκπίπτει (ecpiptei) as we call it] the quanta, it is just 'if it is there'.
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Re: Delta | Delta https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42514.msg529601#msg529601
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2012, 06:47:07 am »
Delta and Antimatter both have effects that turn target(s) against their owners.  Because of that [ assuming: 9 damage to opponent = 9 healing to you ], the casting cost can be balanced in reference to Antimatter at 8|8, as you have chosen a different option to upgrade.

So, it's a lobotomizing spell [replace skill with 'Mind Control'], seeing as you compared it to Liquid Shadow?
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Re: Delta | Delta https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42514.msg529606#msg529606
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2012, 06:56:38 am »
I assume 'Mind Control' is passive/active, right?
Also, double targeting has been shot down in the past, because of it being too hard to implement in the actual game (or something along those lines). The essence of this card is cool though.
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Re: Delta | Delta https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42514.msg529609#msg529609
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2012, 07:01:42 am »
The issue with multi targeting is that it usually involved having the targets interacting with each other.

But this may be different than multi targeting.  Seeing as there is a condition, it could be seen as for every 5|4 :entropy, cast Delta for free.  And then you target for each.

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Re: Delta | Delta https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42514.msg529610#msg529610
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2012, 07:02:54 am »
Delta and Antimatter both have effects that turn target against their owners.  Because of that [ assuming: 9 damage to opponent = 9 healing to you ], the casting cost can be balanced in reference to Antimatter at 8|8, as you have chosen a different option to upgrade.

So, it's a lobotomizing spell [replace skill with 'Mind Control'], seeing as you compared it to Liquid Shadow?

Alright, I think I would have the Mind Control stasis as passive as it can be easily lobotomized otherwise. Also, this effects multiplt enemies, not just one.

I assume 'Mind Control' is passive/active, right?
Also, double targeting has been shot down in the past, because of it being too hard to implement in the actual game (or something along those lines). The essence of this card is cool though.

Alright, instead of targeting, maybe random creatures would be targeted instead. But since it is random, I will consider dropping down the cost to 11|11 @Drake
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Re: Delta | Delta https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42514.msg529612#msg529612
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2012, 07:08:42 am »
Augh, I blame my DS.  My reply should not have been striked out...

And 'easily lobotomizable' is a misnomer.  There are only 4 cards that can remove abilities.  And half of them are not used.

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Re: Delta | Delta https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42514.msg529613#msg529613
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2012, 07:11:55 am »
So you suggest this to be an active skill?
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Re: Delta | Delta https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42514.msg529621#msg529621
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2012, 07:22:44 am »
That's what you currently have it as.  A passive active [similar to Bioluminescence, Acceleration].  If it becomes a passive [similar to Airborne, Devourer], it may prove to be an issue as there are no means of getting rid of it.

Oh, that makes 5 cards that remove skills... [Mitosis, Butterfly Effect, Acceleration, Mind Flayer, Lobotomizer].

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Re: Delta | Delta https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42514.msg529624#msg529624
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2012, 07:26:06 am »
Alright, thanks. I will try to edit Delta and Xi when I can. Sorry for putting too many card ideas at once. I'm sort of a fanatic.
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Re: Delta | Delta https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42514.msg529628#msg529628
« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2012, 07:34:08 am »
Oh, it's fine.  My idea sprees are MUCH worse.  I may have submitted a full series before.  And that pretty much took over the entire first page.

 

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