Sage | Sage

[moomoose]

NAME: Sage ELEMENT: Water COST: 8 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 4 | 1 TEXT: When you do not possess a shield, damage done by your opponent is reduced by Sage's attack power.	NAME: Sage ELEMENT: Water COST: 8 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 4 | 3 TEXT: When you do not possess a shield, damage done by your opponent is reduced by Sage's attack power.

ART: vrt IDEA: moomoose NOTES: The effect stacks for each Sage in play.  The effect is active and can be lobotomized.  Antimatter will result in *increased* creature damage.  Should the owner put a shield into play at any point, the Sage will not function whilst the shield is in play.  Adrenaline will not impact this card. Their fragility and high costs are to compensate for the high protection value relative to established shields (aside from Hope) SERIES:

[esran]

seems to powerful to me. one of them is as good as a titanium shield vs no CC. 2 of them makes you nearly invincible. 3 and if your opponent doesnt have CC he should just quit.

[OdinVanguard]

Allowing the effect to both stack and be based on attack power seems a little too powerful for me. True, lobo is a possible counter and they are somewhat succeptible to CC, but consider this with fractal and SoP. It will greatly overshadow RoL hope i think.

[moomoose]

rolhope costs less, and is much more flexible (can even use luci on dragons).  8 quanta 1 card per 4 damage reduction, whereas rolhope can gain 6+ in a single use of a fractal, to a cap of 23.  and rolhope cant ever add damage to your opponent, so this has an additional weakness to antimatter/nymphs, and a single cc (of virtually any type) will be more potent against this than a single cc against rolhope (reverse time a rol? so what.  reverse time 1 sage and thats a substantial lose of damage reduction and quantum)

[esran]

yes, but this is OP because it isnt a shield. shield get cheaper effects because they take the shield slot. ROL Hope should not be your only comparison point. this is 8 quanta for 4 DR, vs earths 6 quanta for 3 DR. but this stacks, and can be synergized with stuff like SOP. even with just one or 2 of these and SOP, youve pretty much won. this card needs its damaged nerfed down to 2 to be fair.

[moomoose]

keep in mind this cannot be used in combination with a shield, if a shield is used the effect goes away- and there are many more means of cc, and many more decks built with cc, than pc. and most means of cc will be sufficient for this card, lobo, rt and antimatter especially.

[Annele]

I like this. And, unlike my preceding posters, I don't think it's OP. Though it may be more useful in another element.

[waterzx]

I like the concept but I think it would be better to make it "cheaper, less attack (less protection) but slightly higher HP".

No one will play a extremely fragile creature using 8 given how common CC is in the game.

[Fippe94]

2-3 Sages + Quint = almost invincible
Seems to OP to me

[freemod1espilon]

but any shield on the opponent's side that affects creatures is a very easy way to negate it as well   question is the effect no longer affective when a stall is on the sage?

[OTL]

2-3 Sages + Quint = almost invincible
Seems to OP to me

4 cards + duo for something that essentially 3 cards + "mono" (lets face it, you're doing something wrong with your RoL hope if you need other light sources) can achieve? No, not quite

Sage would have its niches, but its never OP. It is well designed, so kudos to moomoose for that

[Fippe94]

2-3 Sages + Quint = almost invincible
Seems to OP to me

4 cards + duo for something that essentially 3 cards + "mono" (lets face it, you're doing something wrong with your RoL hope if you need other light sources) can achieve? No, not quite

Sage would have its niches, but its never OP. It is well designed, so kudos to moomoose for that

But RoL/Hope has several counters (Lobo, thunderstorm, fireshield, all form of reusable CC) while this combo only have one that I can see (Fireshield). But I guess it might not be too OP when you considers things like spell damage and momentum. I still think the attack should be lowered to 3 to make it slightly less op.