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Sabotage | Sabotage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41047.msg508370#msg508370
« on: June 06, 2012, 05:21:40 pm »


NAME:
Sabotage
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
3 :darkness
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Turn one card in your opponent's deck into a photon.
NAME:
Sabotage
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
2 :darkness
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Turn one card in your opponent's deck into a photon.
ART:
SRC
IDEA:
Anarook
NOTES:
Replaces any card in the opponent's deck with a photon. Will not replace another photon.
It is unknown which card is replaced.
Has nice potential to criple the opponent if it hits the right card.
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« Last Edit: July 23, 2012, 01:14:31 am by Anarook »
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Re: Sabotage | Sabotage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41047.msg508447#msg508447
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2012, 09:49:25 pm »
May be slightly UP, as it is random, and only really kills OHKOs.  I'd also suggest the upped cost the same or +1 as the unupped, and make it change two cards in the opponent's deck into photons.
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Re: Sabotage | Sabotage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41047.msg508452#msg508452
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2012, 10:13:09 pm »
1) I think if its UP, it might cost too much.
2) This does far more than defeat OHKOs, there are many decks that centralize around specific cards, hitting the right ones can potentially destroy the opponent's strategy.
3) Ive debated 2 card effect, but that seems leaning to OP
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Re: Sabotage | Sabotage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41047.msg508460#msg508460
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2012, 11:02:05 pm »
1) I think if it's UP, it might cost too much.
2) This does far more than defeat OHKOs, there are many decks that centralize around specific cards, hitting the right ones can potentially destroy the opponent's strategy.
3) Ive debated 2 card effect, but that seems leaning to OP

1. I was meerly stating why is costs too much.
2. I know, but it is random, so you have no control over what you hit. At least with OHKOs, you have guarrantee of either hitting a crucial card, a defence card, or a pillar.
3. Now I think about it, it does sound quite OP. Would probably be worth at least a +2 from unupped, but then who would use it?
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Re: Sabotage | Sabotage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41047.msg508772#msg508772
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2012, 10:50:19 pm »
I'm thinking -1 cost to each for now, any other opinions?
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Re: Sabotage | Sabotage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41047.msg508780#msg508780
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2012, 11:12:24 pm »
I'd say -2. I think just 1 card changed into a photon is simply not worth it, especially at that cost. However, there is stacking to consider, and photons could be turned into photons again... Lower cost and 1 change is fine with me. 6 of these has a greater effect than 1.
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Re: Sabotage | Sabotage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41047.msg508788#msg508788
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2012, 11:55:56 pm »
what might be cool is if you keep the cost the same, or even raise it, and have it replace a card in the opponents deck with a relic. thus blocking up a space in theri hand forevor if they draw it.

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Re: Sabotage | Sabotage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41047.msg508795#msg508795
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2012, 12:12:37 am »
What if it changed the card into a singularity instead? Thats a much nastier swap
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Re: Sabotage | Sabotage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41047.msg508797#msg508797
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2012, 12:16:44 am »
what might be cool is if you keep the cost the same, or even raise it, and have it replace a card in the opponents deck with a relic. thus blocking up a space in theri hand forevor if they draw it.
What if it changed the card into a singularity instead? Thats a much nastier swap

These two ideas are epic as well, it would make it slightly less UP because then any card replaced would then be deemed useless.
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Re: Sabotage | Sabotage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41047.msg508802#msg508802
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2012, 12:21:27 am »
mine was actually a joke. but i like odinvanguard's idea.

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Re: Sabotage | Sabotage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41047.msg508806#msg508806
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2012, 12:25:14 am »
Just be careful giving singularities to a Ghostmare deck... they might just give them right back en mass :D

Now that I think about it, malignant cell would be another fun usage...

The coolest thing, though, would be to make a card specifically for this spell. Perhaps one that reads something like:
"Deals owner 1 damage per turn while in hand. Causes owner 5 damage if played or discarded."
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Re: Sabotage | Sabotage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41047.msg508808#msg508808
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2012, 12:28:31 am »
if i was ghostmare, i would not play a singulairty just to nightmare it. unless of course i was playing against time.

 

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